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INTEREST: Manga Artist Sumito Ōwara Responds to Following CG Erotic Art of Child Characters on Pixiv

Well, the only change I can see happening here is that likely bigger artists will have to maintain a public pixiv account and a private pixiv account to make sure their bookmarking of illustrations isn't perceived negatively overseas.

I did a bit of digging around and it turns out I am wrong. I remember hearing about some restrictions on manga and anime that had depictions of extreme sexual situations involving characters who look underage, but it turns out that only applied to selling that material to minors (those under the age of 18).

And a lot of artist/mangakas have been doing it the same way for a lot of years, it'll probably be changes seen in the next generation since people are living more and more with the internet all the time, and since years old fuckups can come back and bring you in the dirt a lot of known persons are probably gonna want to avoid that

One would think keeping a separate personal and business account, and keeping the two detached from each other, to be common sense by now...

Blood- wrote:

AmpersandsUnited wrote: As far as the western VS Japan thing. There's obviously people in Japan who don't like loli, but I think the main difference is Japan is very much a live-and-let-live kind of culture and aren't as kneejerk when it comes to getting upset over other peoples interests and trying to destroy them over it. I mean, just the sheer fact you can have magazines and outlets that publish loli, shota, and other similar kinds of content out in the market says a lot. I highly doubt any kind of American comic publication would publish anything of the sort here, especially when art sites and payment services actively ban and shut down artists who draw that stuff already which makes it hard for western artists to make a living on it. I would also say if Owara was an America creative I would have to imagine he would have been dropped from his publisher upon this information coming to light, let alone his dismissive response to it. If a DC or Marvel artist got caught looking at this stuff he probably wouldn't still be getting work from them, especially if they didn't even attempt to apologize and say it was an accident and instead doubled down. With respect to the bolded part, you really can't be more wrong. [...] There is a subset of anime/manga fans who are absolutely desperate to believe that a huge chunk of the general Japanese population is cool with illustrated kiddy porn. It simply isn't true. Sorry.

I'm sorry to say this, but I can tell you've never lived in Japan for a longer period of time or talked about this with japanese people. I did, and I can assure you that what AmpersandsUnited said in bold is in part true. I have asked several japanese friends and acquaintances over the years when I lived in Japan what they thought of "loli" content manga and of those which are clearly pornographic in nature. Most of them simply answered this way: "It's manga (manga da yo)", giving no further explanation. This was their way to politely phrase it's fiction, and I don't care about it/don't wanna continue talking/arguing about this topic (with a foreigner). In other words, japanese people don't want to get involved in hot topic otaku debates and arguments like we fans in the west do, which could mean some japanese people either disapprove illustrated lolita pornography, or some are cool with it, or simply don't care - we don't really know.

Shayru wrote:

And a lot of artist/mangakas have been doing it the same way for a lot of years, it'll probably be changes seen in the next generation since people are living more and more with the internet all the time, and since years old fuckups can come back and bring you in the dirt a lot of known persons are probably gonna want to avoid that

One would think keeping a separate personal and business account, and keeping the two detached from each other, to be common sense by now...

if loli are getting bad then yandere should be just as much, they(re depicting people with mental problem and have made some people act like that, and most of the yanderes are underage and since these are litteraly psychopath

I never thought about that until now. A lot of people hate lolis yet praise yanderes. Sure, you will see some cringe over it but that's the most I've seen. I haven't seen anyone give the same amount of hate for them but guess its true. Most westerners fans are fine with violence/gore than anything of straight up nudity.

It doesn't help that the recent anime controversy on twitter was over Uzaki-chan's design and calling people pedos (surprised ANN didn't make an article about that). These people who did mostly had profile pictures from action/violent type franchises.

Yeah it's the same thing as when censorship happened with ps and such, as long as people are okay with what comes out, the game that's censored doesn't interest them it's okay to censor but when it's a game they like then censorship is the worse thing that ever happen

I think this is a very important principle that a lot of people overlook. Many people only care about authoritarian overreach when it affects them. If the censorship, bans, restrictions, etc, apply to other people then they don't really care.....and that becomes a huge problem when it's something they care about which is facing a ban and they don't have other people's support to fight it.

I am not a video gamer but I think the censorship being applied to video games is wrong, as is the assertion that violent games make people violent. Loli is not my fetish but I think trying to restrict it is likewise wrong. I am not into BL or Yaoi either but the persecution of those artists and their works has to stop as well. I will happily stand with those people out of matter of principle, because I hope those people will likewise speak out when it is my hobbies which are the target of authoritarian ovvereach.

Like why can't people leave everyone be, yes hentai images of loli is ero, kinda like every other ero image except this time the character is small,
Does that mean the persone drawing/reading this will assault children on the street?
Then ban all [expletive] ero since that means there's should also be people assaulting adults because of every ero images which is also bad, and let's not talk about furries assaulting animals

This whole thing about banning loli as personally been wrong from the beginning there's a better chance society is the reason someone might become a pedophile than lolicon

This argument doesn't make sense though.

You're basically making the argument that any story that features sex in particular consensual sex that's it's going to lead to someone contemplating sexually assaulting another person. Which is even more puzzling since they're are people who may read a manga that does have sexual harassment or even subtle or overt sexual assault in and will get turned off by it.

The issue with lolicon isn't really the idea of someone reading it and being influenced into forcing themselves onto a younger individual but more or less the basis of it. Which is that you're writing a story where you have older characters pining for a much younger character which is a thing that is considered taboo and wrong where as in some of these stories it's played as fine or even comical. I mean you can make the argument of different strokes for different folks but at the same time it's one of those things that you'd probably would be better off not admitting you're into around certain people.

If this were still the dark ages maybe but outside of some cultures these type of relationships are widely frowned upon.