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NEWS: Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo Film's Trailer Posted

And I also wish that we could stop calling artists "trolls" for surprising people, creating things outside the norm or interacting with audience expectations in any way. It really trivializes their creativity!

I saw nothing new there to get excited about. Running a trailer on a shopping plaza wall? Out of focus? Looked more like a few cuts from the TV series with a few clips of EoE? Yeah, he's no troll, not at all.
Being an old git means one is not so easily lead, until one get demented and that's not happening to me yet. I seriously hope he proves me wrong, if he does he'll get my money as his reward, but stunts like this isn't shaking my confidence.

Mohawk52 wrote:

I saw nothing new there to get excited about. Running a trailer on a shopping plaza wall? Out of focus? Looked more like a few cuts from the TV series with a few clips of EoE? Yeah, he's no troll, not at all. Being an old git means one is not so easily lead, until one get demented and that's not happening to me yet. I seriously hope he proves me wrong, if he does he'll get my money as his reward, but stunts like this isn't shaking my confidence.

There were no clips from the TV series or EoE in that trailer. There were two playbacks of the first two movies, and then some footage from the third one.
Out of curiosity, have you seen any of the Rebuild movies? The first movie is pretty much the same as the TV series, however, the second movie is really different in terms of tone and plot. Maybe give these new movies a shot before you write Anno off as a troll. I'm an 'old git' in spirit - I'm usually hyper critical of new material of TV shows and movies I like (for example, I am steering clear of Arrested Development season 4), but these movies have been excellent so far, and I'm really excited to see what's going to happen with the last two movies.

Sadly I can say I did see the first Rebuild movie before EoE, and I have seen the recent "1.11" version. The second hasn't washed up on our beaches yet.

Mohawk52 wrote:

Sadly I can say I did see the first Rebuild movie before EoE, and I have seen the recent "1.11" version. The second hasn't washed up on our beaches yet.

I would attest that 2.22 has been available through Manga for a year now. Indeed, I recall obtaining a copy from a booth last July. It is likely to be even more affordable now than it was then.

So far the score is Anno 3 - expectations 0.

I loved EoE up until the last 6 minutes to the credits when Anno gave me the golden shower.

I loved EoE up until the last 6 minutes to the credits when Anno gave me the golden shower.

DarkPhoenixMishima wrote:

Alright then, time to wait out the two years before this gets dubbed.

Burn heretic! BUUURNNNN!

Watching dubbed animes is like listening to bad cover songs...

Subtitles are superior because you get to hear the original voices.

I love this argument, because then I can ask the fan if he prefers to watch Tenchi Muyo! In Love in English. After all, the English voices were recorded first. Then I get to watch the fun as he backtracks, usually by redefining "original". But whatever. I could care less about "original" voices. I'd rather hear the "best" voices, or rather, the voices that give me the most enjoyable overall experience.

I think the problem here is that some people equate animation dubs with live-action dubs. In the latter, hearing the original voices is very important, since those voices belong to the human actors you see on the screen. In contrast, animation cels have no voice of their own. (As has been said, "All animation is dubbed.") So saying one vocal track is superior to another simply because it was recorded first is a spurious argument.


The Japanese voice acting is always better than the English voice acting.

Ha. No, seriously. Ha.

Once upon a time, you could say this and know it to be true, not because you knew anything about the Japanese acting, but because the English dub acting was so absolutely amateurishly awful. These days, it's rare for a dub to not be at least passable, and several studios consistently produce very good dubs. So to continue to make this argument, you have to be able to describe just how good the Japanese acting is.

That's where the argument breaks down. If you don't speak Japanese, you cannot determine with any degree of accuracy whether the acting is any good. And please, spare me the hooie about how you can just tell by how well the actors emote. Any actor can emote. Emoting is one part of acting. There's timing, enunciation, and all kinds of nuances that go into delivering a good line, all of which is lost on you if you don't speak the language. Scott Frazier tells a funny story about how he learned one of his favorite anime (Dirty Pair) was horribly acted, once he became fluent in Japanese.

The sad truth of the matter is that most Japanese anime voice acting is of average quality. This is not to impugn the Japanese; it's merely Sturgeon's Law at work. For every Akira Kamiya and Megumi Hayashibara, there are scores of actors giving uninspired, cookie-cutter performances.