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rond556
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I just got finished watching GetBackers, so now I feel inclined to do this topic.....catch my drift at where I'm going with this? Anyway, there are more than likely very many spoilers in this topic, so procede carefully
GetBackers A rushed ending that left way to much unexplained and wide open such as Ban's Past and his fight with Ginji, a final fight with Akabane, and not to mention a good description of the final story which was horribly paced and didn't get it's point across. Great series otherwise with great filler, fun cast, and the first MAKUBEX story was at least done properly. Berserk Biggest cliffhanger ever......at least we have the manga (which is still WAY better than the show) Rurouni Kenshin Don't get me started....this is my favorite series, but only if I don't consider episodes 63-95 exist......I mean, the whole Black Knights thing and the whole Feng Sui thing, come on writers (not to mention the second OVA which I HATE) Neon Genesis Evangelion I think we can all agree on this (I haven't seen the movie yet though) Full Metal Alchemist Unlike the other series on this list, I actually did like this ending and it was a much better cliffhanger ending than Berserk...and we still have the movie coming so that's good And now the next series I plan on seeing supposedly has a bad ending, and that His and Her Circumstances......I HATE bad endings....*sigh* Time to go read all my manga since they actually have good endings |
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Captain Crotchspike
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Air Master - The show kept getting better and better, building up for something big, and bam, it's over at episode 27. It was very obvious that it was supposed to go for much longer, seeing as how '27' is an awfully awkward number to end on. spoiler[Maki still hadn't beaten whats-her-face and we never got any real closure on that rivalry. The big bad guy, the final boss, the ultimate fighter - beaten in one episode in a rather lame fight, with a very rushed explanation of his past and abilities.] I loved this show and it was depressing to see it end in a crash landing.
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Sakurazukamori
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Nope. The ending of the series (I dont talk about the made-for-money/fanservice film "The End") is quite as good as long you're not fanatics or an otaku. It is subtle with ideas and thoughts you can find in other works of Anno (like Shikijutsu)
I agree. I really did love FMA but the ending (ep 51) is just an advertisement for the film. |
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rascalking
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DB/DBZ/DBGT: For such a LONG anime (over 10 year i think), I think they could have done a LOT better with the final ep.
FMA: Ending made me wanting so much more!! Inuyasha: I loved the last ep that aired....I'm just pissed they cut off the anime Hellsing: Awesome anime but.......13 eps!!, come on!......ohhhh, what could have been BIG O: The ending was cool, but it just left more questions.....seemed like a season finale, more than a SERIES finale Thats all I can think of for now....... |
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zaphdash
 Posts: 620 Location: Brooklyn |
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I liked Getbackers quite a bit, including the ending. The anime managed to at least basically address every major issue it brought up. It left some details unresolved, but that's because there's more to the manga than was animated. I'm glad the anime production crew didn't just try to wing it and fill in the rest themselves, because that traditionally has terrible results. I don't know how much more manga there is, but with enough material, I'd like to see a sequel anime. I don't expect one to be made, but I'd certainly welcome it if they did.
I also have to disagree on Evangelion. There are a lot of people who have problems with the final two episodes of Evangelion, but I think those people only had problems because they lost sight of what the show was actually about. Evangelion is *not* a show about a secret organization that uses giant organic machines to defeat mysterious Angel invaders. At its core, Evangelion is a show about a messed up 14 year old kid trying to sort his head out. The Angels and Evas were used throughout the series as a plot device to help him accomplish this, but they were never anything more than that: a plot device. It's really easy to watch Eva as a robot anime, but that's not how it's supposed to be watched. If you keep that in mind, you shouldn't feel so short-changed by the final two episodes. They really weren't that different from the rest of the show, except that there weren't any fights sandwiching the long period of time spent inside Shinji's head. And I have to very strongly disagree with rascalking about DB/Z/GT's ending. I thought it was actually the perfect way to end the show. For one thing, the final battle FINALLY got past the whole power level fetish. Sure, they hadn't actually used specific numbers for quite a while by that point, but the entire show was still just all about who's stronger than whom, and each major battle included various power-ups on each side just to maintain drama and keep the fight going. The final fight, Goku vs. Ii Shenlon, finally transcended that. Goku was much, much weaker than his enemy, but he was fighting to protect his home and his family and friends, and that proved to be a stronger force than mere physical power. The very last episode was a fitting end to the show. We'd been with Goku since he was 12 years old. By the final episode, he's a pretty old man (even if he's physically a child thanks to the wish made at the beginning of GT). We've basically witnessed this person's entire life, we've watched him meet new people, grow up, start a family of his own which in turn started a family of its own. I thought it was appropriate that the end of the series and the end of Goku's mortal life should coincide, and they managed to tie the Dragon Balls into it at the same time. The show ends with future generations (Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr) tapping into the same kind of strength Goku had used so many times to save the world, which is exactly what the show had been trying to do since way back at the Cell Game when Goku attempted to pass the torch to Gohan. Everything was tied up really nicely and the show ended on the perfect note. What, exactly, would you have preferred done differently? Anyway, for my part, I usually don't have issues with endings. The worst ending I can think of is that of Kare Kano (which I expected would have already been mentioned). I really, really enjoyed the show, and then it just kind of...stopped. I would have liked to see Gainax do another season. I've never particularly liked the Macross Plus OVA ending. Way, way too abrupt. But the movie does a better job tying everything up, so it's not all bad. I always thought Gundam Wing's ending was just a little too picture perfect. "And then everyone realized that war really is no fun, so they all threw away their weapons forever and ever and lived happily ever after." I just have certain expectations about how a show will end because most shows end pretty much the same way -- a really trying climax, but then everything comes out all right in the end. I'm so used to seeing it that I don't really complain about it. The rare show that deviates from the formula could potentially strike gold, but it also runs the risk of messing up and alienating its audience, so hardly anyone does it. So as long as the ending isn't extraordinarily disappointing, I generally overlook the typical shortcomings, because you'll find them in most shows' endings. |
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Haiseikoh 1973
 Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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With that explanation, it's now even more frickin' confusing.
Not created in the first place. 
But still, you have a series that takes 5 episodes to get thru a 15 minute Spirit Bomb, has very weird or plain stupid plotlines, the characters are jokes, and they end it like how it did? Rushed and truely a POS. |
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Captain Crotchspike
Posts: 355 Location: Phoenix, AZ |
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I liked the ending to Eva too, it seemed like the perfect way to end a series that was pretty much a depressed Japanese man's mind in anime form, complete with robots and streets of blood and underage girls. I've always thought of End of Evangelion as Anno's big, high budget way of saying "YEARGH SCREW YOU GUYS" to the fans for not liking his ending. Kind of explains why he Ideoned it.
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SekiGatha
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It really depends upon your opinion on endings. The Japanese tend to like endings to be open rather than have closure to them.
Was I a little disappointed with the ending of Hellsing and His and Her Circumstances? Yes, but I enjoyed the two series more because of the open endings. I rather have no conclusion than a rushed or predictable closing to a series. |
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ParaParaJMo
 Posts: 336 Location: Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan |
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I say any anime that gets a premature ending to it's manga counterpart mostly stink.
As a fan of the Berserk manga, I can tell you that I did not like how it ended the anime (as well as other manga fans). The way the anime went, it was pretty much a 25 episode advertisement for the manga. There was still so much to the ending cliffhanger than the anime that still made it inferior to the manga. The way I look at the anime now, why did they make the anime in the first place if it had such horrible direction? Inuyasha's anime ending sucked too. They hyped it as some sort of final battle and it was your typical episode of they face Naraku and he runs away. The only Takahashi manga based anime that ever got any complete closure was just Maison Ikkoku. The Hajime no Ippo anime ends where the true excitement of the manga begins and that pisses me off. Even though the manga is now 72 volumes (and still going), it keeps getting better and better. How can you end the anime when Ippo and Miyata's rivarly hasn't ended yet (and they're going to fight in the manga this year)? I don't consider GT as part of the Dragon Ball storyline, but the manga's new ending is actually pretty descent and gives a better sense of closure. |
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abunai
Old Regular
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Yup. When an anime winds up "pulling a Hellsing", it is so annoying. Other anime in the same bind are Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou (already mentioned in this thread), and Gantz, which did a fine job of bringing the manga to life in the first season - and ended in a complete travesty in the second.... I'm currently rather worried about Bleach, which looks as if it's a strong candidate for the same sort of thing. The manga has a solid and intricate plot which may be too complicated for most viewers. I fear they may change it, ad bring about an alternate (and more rapid) ending. - abunai |
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Tasha
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When it comes to excellent anime with bad endings, Berserk is the king of them all. Twelve Kingdoms is another one. I thought the anime should have ended about six episodes before it actually did. Either that, or the last two arcs should have been switched. Great Teacher Onizuka and Hikaru no Go don't end. They just.... "stop." Hikaru no Go, in particular, has an ending (like Loki Ragnarok's) where you just can't help cracking up because you just can't believe it's actually ending that way.
I agree; I liked FMA's ending, as well. It was definitely a cliff hanger, but at the same, there were enough tied ends for it to be satisfying. Even if the movie weren't coming out, I would still appreciate the ending. (Judging from the trailers, the movie isn't going to be about what it's supposed to be about....which scares me. I'll hate for my opinion of the series to lower.) ......I can think of some bad anime with excellent endings, but I won't go there. Last edited by Tasha on Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:01 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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v1cious
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Noir, cause it just made no sense
Wolf's Rain, cause it felt like a cop out Witch Hunter Robin, cause nothing's ever really resolved. |
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Steve Berry
Posts: 522 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA |
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I never really liked the ending of Macross, even though I love the show as a whole. I much prefer the original ending at the climactic battle, before they re-ran the show and added the final 9 episodes and the two filler episodes in the middle.
Also-- Frankly, I rather enjoyed the ending of Berserk-- I thought that how it ended at a very powerful emotional point was pure genius. The show was more about Guts' emotional change and growth and the triangular relationship between him, Griffith, and Casca than anything else-- or so it seemed to me... much the same point made about NGE in an earlier post. I know I'm in the minority on this one, but i also know I'm not the only one that thinks this way. Also, although I love the artwork in the manga, and there are details I would have liked to have seen included in the anime that were left out-- still, there are many things that were cut that I felt were fine decisions-- some of the earlier manga eps with Puck, some of the gratuitous t and a, some of the endless fights that I felt didn't really move the plot forward (with Wyld say, or with Silatt, or while they are spoiler[escaping from the dungeons with Griffith]), etc. Basically, they're two different beasts- the anime and the manga-- and each has its good points, to me. But yeah, I thought the ending was great-- very powerful, but yes, also absolutely open ended. I guess it made me feel that the show was more about grabbing me by the balls emotionally than it was about providing plot resolution. I'm okay with that. I completely understand that others are not. |
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Advent_Nebula
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Get Backers is 26 Manga Volumes, The anime was done while only the first 18 were out. yes the last four are rushed, but they had little to work with. |
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Jadress
 Posts: 812 Location: Seattle. It purdy and nerdy! |
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I also thought that the end of the Eva TV series was fine and I think Zaphdash explained why it was fine, perfectly. Even though I didn't even think of those reasons as I saw the ending, I still felt a sense of closure with Shinji.
I can't think of any series' ending that I have a particular beef with... there are many that are shocking because they end so abruptly (Nurse Angel Ririka, MY GOD!!) and don't fill you in on all that they could, but none have enraged me so far. Mainly with those series, I just wish there was a little more, or that they covered more of the comic. ^^
How so? I loved Hikaru no Go's ending (yeah, I cried, I'm a sap) and I don't really see another way it could have resolved. |
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