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Forum - View topicKyle Pope- Missed an edit on Trigun Ep 4
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Lowen Na
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When Vash walks (dances) in to the bar, the guns that were shoved in to his face were digitally removed.
Ironicly, the promo for Trigun that CN airs during Adult Swim shows that scene un-edited in the montage of scenes. |
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Hungry Sano
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More insanity from Toonami!
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Coral Skipper
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Trigun's on Adult Swim not Toonami. |
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Lowen Na
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You wouldn't know it from the edits |
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Case
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Yes you would. In spite of whatever editing is being done, or how you perceive those edits, Trigun is still heavy on the adult language and themes and is definitely in th running for "Most Risquee regularly-airing series on Cartoon Network". |
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Lowen Na
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I don't know about that. You might be right, but there are several times when Tenchi Muyo was not edited on Toonami that really really suprised me when it came to sexual refrences and even langage. Tenchi is the first and only animated show I have ever seen shown on Toonami were "Damn" was not edited out. So far I haven't seen anything worse than that in Trigun left in, only that it was left in more often. I don't mind that anime is edited to meet FCC regulations for langage and content, but some of the edits on these shows are completely assinine and inconsistant. They will edit out things that there is no reason to edit out, and then they will not edit out the same thing in other shows, the same show, and some times even the same episode. |
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Case
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You must be reading too many edit lists and watching too little of it, then. Many of the characters (villains especially) swear openly to one degree or another, in darned near every episode; even though they decide to change one word here and there from time to time. Still, that's multiple times more than the Tenchi gang was allowed to get away with it. (And didn't they even remove the one "Damn!" that Ryoko belted out during the first run?) And they let a main character carry around a cross. And they have whole episodes about the hopelessness of drinking. (In Tenchi, if you'll recall, they consistantly insisted that any and all sake bottles/cups/etc contained tea.) Trigun is a pinnicle of the no-censorship movement on Cartoon Network. Complaining about the series now (before something comes along to surpass it, at the very least) is really, really, really hypocritical.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Would you rather that they be consistantly remove every possible offensive thing from the show - all insulting language, all blood, all religious references, all violence, all everything - just for the sake of being consistant? Seriously; I'm not being rhetorical here. Would you? They're toeing a line. They're editing just enough out to try and prevent the more vocal members of the general public from causing a ruckus, and leaving whatever they feel they can intact for us the fans. Who cares if it's consistant or not? Be thankful that they care as much as they do, rather than slapping a whole new show together from the tamest parts of the original, a la Robotech. 
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BrianC
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I would like you to know that only about one "damn" was kept in and the Tenchi Muyo OVAs are much more heavily edited than the TV series. The OVAs were not only edited for time, but edited for content. BTW, Tenchi was not the only edited Toonami anime that had some cursing slip in. Kenshin had a "damn" and Outlaw Star was the worst offended with "damn" and "bastard" kept in(though Outlaw Star got edited more during the second run). From that post, I'm guessing that you are referring to the TV series of Tenchi and not the OVAs. The Tenchi TV series were already fairly clean as far as content went, so of course there wouldn't be as many edits as in other shows(though CN actually made a line more risque in Tenchi in Tokyo). Comparing their edits to the edits in something like Trigun which is heavier on the adult content is silly. I do agree about inconsistant edits , but I would mention that Cartoon Network, the FCC, and Warner Bros. all have incosistant guidelines for content, so, unfortunetly, you'll just have to deal with the edits, no matter how painful they are. However, most of the edits in Adult Swim are VERY minor and don't leave out anything important(though editing out Zenigata patting himself on the back in Lupin III was rather lame). |
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Lowen Na
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Hoestly, and I don't want to sound like an elitest here, but I really don't care that much if there air it at all or not. I prefer to buy my titles on DVD so I can watch them unedited. I guess I am not really complaining, so much as asking why? Why can they leave something in one episode, but not another? What is the reasoning to edit guns out of one scene in the rated TV show, but to leave them in the unrated advertisement? Why can they not show guns in someones face or mouth in this show, but on Sealab 2021 they can show a black man getting beatten to near death? Which is more likely to cause offence to viewers? Futurama has lots of religious jokes that are more offensive than a gun packing priest. All of the William Street cartoons has more offensive language. What is it about a show that they get the rights to from over seas that will need a little bit of editing for it to meet FCC regulations about 4 letter words that turns it an excuse to make lots of subtile changes? I really am curious to know? Trigun is NOT the most racey show they have on, maybe the most racey anime show, but not out of all Adult Swim. And with Family Guy coming on the next week, it will look even cleaner. |
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Shadowics
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[quote="Lowen Na"]
Two words - Outlaw Star Really most of what Cartoon Network has done is pretty minor. I have more issues with the changes made to the dialog for the dub version. |
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v1cious
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i'm not sure if this was just on cartoon network as i haven't seen the dvds, but instead of calling Vash "Mankind's First Human Act Of God" they changed it to "mankind's first localized disaster". i thought that was really retarded
Last edited by v1cious on Sat May 03, 2003 10:13 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Delthayre
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It seems that, for whatever reason, the Turner BS&P (Bureau of Standards and Practices) has somewhat harsh and bothersomely inconsistent standards of censorship. "Native" CN/Warner shows such as Sealab 2021 are subjected to the least scrutiny, then non-CN/Warner American shows such as Family Guy are, then Anime, which is the most severely scrutinized. It doesn't entirely make sense, but as with most things of such a nature, it is the the way things are.
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