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Nirvana
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:52 pm |
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Hi, I'm writing my thesis on Anime (specifically the difference on locality with global) and I needed some examples of anime that are popular in Japan, but not in America (or other places). Can someone give me some examples? I can't really think of any because due to fan subbing, anime are popular here if they are or are not licensed. Tehn again, do you guys think some popular anime TO US (otaku ) would be considered "only popular in Japan?" Any response would be helpful, thanks!
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Wolverine Princess
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:39 pm |
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I know Galaxy Angel is pretty popular over there, but here in the States it's got only a tiny fanbase mostly made up of little girls.
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Swissman
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:54 pm |
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| Nirvana wrote: | | Hi, I'm writing my thesis on Anime (specifically the difference on locality with global) and I needed some examples of anime that are popular in Japan, but not in America (or other places). Can someone give me some examples? |
Sazae-san
Chibi Maruko-chan
Doraemon
Nihon Mukashi Banashi
Nintama Rantarô
... And others. Some of them are well-known in Asia, but not in America. Mostly shows which don't look "cool" or "flashy" enough to fansubbers for subbing....
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cyrax777
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:33 pm |
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| Swissman wrote: | |
Sazae-san
Chibi Maruko-chan
Doraemon
Nihon Mukashi Banashi
Nintama Rantarô
... And others. Some of them are well-known in Asia, but not in America. Mostly shows which don't look "cool" or "flashy" enough to fansubbers for subbing.... |
Doraemon was being fansubbed just no one bothered to download it so the group quit. That and theres so much of it. I think the reason it never took of in the states is face it in Japan alot of people grew up with it and as a result still big among people of all ages Kinda like how Looney tunes is so popular most of us remember getting up and watching them in the morning as a kid. Doremon is the same way alot of people read the manga/watched the anime when they were kids and some still follow it now.
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TranceLimit174
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:10 pm |
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While the reasons vary I can think of a few that have been given a shot but never really caught on.
Gundam (pretty much every one except for Wing)
Astro Boy
Detective Conan
Lupin The Third
All of these shows are pretty big in Japan (only one I'm not sure of is Astro Boy but I'm pretty positive it did very well). These shows have also aired on US TV (save for a fair amount of the Gundam titles) but never really resonated with fans.
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Steventheeunuch
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:23 pm |
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While the most recent Astro Boy hasn't done too well (for various reasons), the 60's incarnation was very popular in the states (though you have to admit, that was 40 years ago), and Australia goes pretty much nuts over the 80's version.
Saint Seiya was another thing that did very well in Japan and failed here. Five movies, 114 TV episodes, two OVA series, and we got 60 uncut episodes, and 40 "knights of the zodiac", a poorly represented TMNT ripoff dub which came roughly ten years too late. Realistically I can understand why it didn't succeed anyway, but if you're not going to get the entirety and just leave the rest of the uncut hanging, then what's the damn point?
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fighterholic
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:13 pm |
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People are forgetting Crayon Chinchan. This one has been trying to compete with Doraemon on prime time television, and has a good ten movies out, at least.
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d.yaro
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:31 pm |
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Hmm, Sazae-san has already been mentioned... How about Obake no Q-Taro? It was about 17 years ago when a Hong Kong born co-worker came up to me and she said "Do you know this character?" and drew Q-Taro. That was kind of funny. I had never given any thought to something like that being known outside of Japan.
This one I think was probably more popular in its manga incarnation: Crayon Shin-chan. I'll always remember the time I was in Iwase Books in Canada and this young Japanese woman squeeled out "Aa! Crayon Shin-chan!!". Her less than impressed boyfriend immediately countered with "Omae, toshi ikutsu na no?!" ("And how old are you?!"), as if to say "Grow up sweetheart!".
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morsmaestro
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:01 pm |
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You probably already plan on using this in your thesis, but anime that are popular in Japan and not other areas where it needs to be licensed is all a matter of whether it is licensed. Whether it develops its own fans depends on public exposure to it. Since it has no presence in those areas aside from fansubs, it has little popularity. For example, I know I'm restricted (a bit) from seeing some unlicensed anime, Honey and Clover for one, because I really wanted to see that, but I don't really want to use fansubs.
I don't have any particular knowledge on any anime fitting this description, but that's my two cents, if it helps.
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:30 pm |
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there are too many anime that only the japanese like. i noticed people mentioned Saint Seiya and Captain Tsubasa. i think those 2 are more of americans don't like them and everybody likes them in other parts of the world.
But there are anime popular in American, but not so much in japan.
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Nirvana
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:15 pm |
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| morsmaestro wrote: | | You probably already plan on using this in your thesis, but anime that are popular in Japan and not other areas where it needs to be licensed is all a matter of whether it is licensed. |
Actually, I dont think thats true. School Rumble is quite popular in the US, but it hasn't been licensed yet... oh god I hope it hasn't... lol. I dont think it has at least =/
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Randall Miyashiro
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:37 am |
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I will agree with the Gundam being huge in Japan. Amazon.jp currently has Gundam holding the 1st, 5th, and 6th and 18th best selling anime spots. The series usually holds mutiple spots in the top 10 in the last couple years with the release of the Zeta Movies, MS Igloo, Seed Destiny, First Gundam on DVD, and the 0083 5.1 remasters. Most of the other shows that do better in Japan on the lists have either not been released here or have done moderately well in the US.
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fighterholic
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:59 am |
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Another series I noticed anyone has seemed to not mention is Hamtaro. Now that's got a pretty big franchise line going over there. While living in Japan my sister had all sorts of Hamtaro products, pencils, erasers, notebooks, the works.
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PantsGoblin
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:27 am |
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| Wolverine Princess wrote: | | I know Galaxy Angel is pretty popular over there, |
Not just GA, but dating sims and the anime based off of them in general are popular in Japan and not in the states (usually, except the big ones like Air, Kiminozo, etc. and even those ones are 90% just an online following in the US).
Thinking back to Akihabara, which I was in just a few weeks ago, the animes that were most popular there (the ones I saw the most merchindise and advertisements for) were The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Naruto, Gundam (various series), Keroro Gunso, Binchou-tan, Aria, Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, Galaxy Angel, Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Mai Otome, Pretty Cure, Rozen Maiden, School Rumble, and possibly a few more I can't remember at the moment. It wasn't uncommon to see it outside of the anime districts I There was a lot more I saw then those though (in particular I remember a lot of .hack//GU since the game just came out) but they were video games and not anime so they wouldn't count here.
Some of those series may just be popular because they're new though. Since a lot of the merchindise and advertisements were different since the last time I was there I'm guessing series come and go in popularity as they're aired.
The anime that people have mentioned before are popular in Japan, but they're more of the "classics". I saw a lot of them outside of the anime districts. Inside the anime districts, I saw very little of them though.
In particular, Keroro Gunso was one of the most popular animes I saw in Japan. I commonly saw it outside of anime districts, which is rare for most anime. Also, I noticed that the Kirarin Revolution was the popular shoujo anime at the time. I was very surprised to see that it hasn't been fansubbed at all. All of its popularity may have just been because it was featured in a recent McDonald's Happy Meal toy though.
| Wolverine Princess wrote: | | but here in the States it's got only a tiny fanbase mostly made up of little girls. |
Which makes it extremely hard to find serious fans of GA here. Most of the GA fansites and clubs in the US are made up of them which is really annoying to me. Thankfully, I have found a group of (male) fans that I can relate to a few months ago.
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cyrax777
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:27 am |
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| fighterholic wrote: | | People are forgetting Crayon Chinchan. This one has been trying to compete with Doraemon on prime time television, and has a good ten movies out, at least. | well it was shown on Hawain TV.
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