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Mobile Suit Gundam: The Strongest (And Strangest) Newtypes

meiam wrote:

. And the seed things has pretty much nothing to do with him being a good pilot (I think he use it like 4 time total), it's about him being a coordinator (spoiler[and eventually it's revealed he's the ultimate coordinator]).

It's not actually. Otherwise, Cagalli wouldn't be able to use it as well as she's not a Coordinator. From what I remember of the original SEED, Kira does bring it up but it's a very minor moment that could easily be a blink and you miss it moment. He brings it up with Mwu during the desert arc and it's brought up by Waltfeld too. The later compares it to a Berserker of Norse mythology where its a state brought about from intense emotion, which explains why it triggers when it does.

It also explains why Shinn has it happen all the time (outside of lolstockfootage) in Destiny, given his anger issues.

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The mental energy is enough to kill antagonist Scirocco and badly scar Kamille, who proves to have the stronger mind simply by surviving this surge of psychological power.

There isn't really any indication Kamille was in danger from his own power. What screwed up his head was Scirocco's last psychic attack.

Charred Knight wrote:

then they begin to refer to it as having high spatial awareness.

I think you have that backwards. I'm pretty sure the original description for the Moebius Zero mentioned the high spatial awareness so I don't think that was added later. The newtype flashes were added later past the initial airing though.

Charred Knight wrote:

For all extensive purposes they are low level newtypes which have some psychic abilities but nowhere the level of say an Amuro Ray, or Judau Ashta.

I don't think C.E. newtypes seemed as strong as higher end U.C. newtypes, but you also have to keep in mind that a lot of the U.C. newtype shenanigans is possible because they developed technology to assist with it (biosensor, psycho frame, etc). If you look at Amuro in First, he didn't really do anything much past what C.E. newtypes do. Of course there are U.C. newtypes like Judau that when angry exert enough mental pressure to scare the crap out of even a bad ass like Haman.

More powerful than Char or Amuro, however, is the woman over whom they are rivals in love, Lalah.

What I mean t was, Kira is a godly pilot because he's a coordinator, seed has barely anything to do with that.

Ugh, a fine article about Newtypes completely poisoned by bringing in CE era Gundam. That Newtype dolphin has more personality than Kira Yamato.

It's possible that Judau Ashta is the strongest Newtype in terms of sheer power, since he can put the parts of the ZZ together with his mind and even project an image of himself with his abilities. Kamille was powerful enough to lock up Scirocco's mobile suit controls. Amuro and Char's resonating pushed Axis away from its path. Banagher might be a cheat, since it's implied he was experimented with and may not be a completely natural Newtype.

One is a dolphin.

I confess that I've never understood why a number of folks dislike Kira.

I confess that I've never understood why a number of folks dislike Kira. He's definitely one of my favorite Gundam pilots, and whereas a number of folks complained about him becoming prominent in Destiny making the show worse, I thought that it made it much better. Destiny is certainly horrible, but it was the returning cast from SEED that made it worth watching in spite of everything wrong with it IMHO, and it was particularly great to see Kira back in action. Except for a few characters, the new cast was mostly unlikeable - Shin especially. IMHO, he's very much in the running for the worst main character ever.

Ugh, a fine article about Newtypes completely poisoned by bringing in CE era Gundam. That Newtype dolphin has more personality than Kira Yamato.

It's possible that Judau Ashta is the strongest Newtype in terms of sheer power, since he can put the parts of the ZZ together with his mind and even project an image of himself with his abilities. Kamille was powerful enough to lock up Scirocco's mobile suit controls. Amuro and Char's resonating pushed Axis away from its path. Banagher might be a cheat, since it's implied he was experimented with and may not be a completely natural Newtype.

SEED gives a human enhanced senses and peak physical fitness, but it lacks the very, very important psychic aspect, so it can hardly be called the 'same damn thing' as Newtype. It really shouldn't be on the list.

this is just me but it's always felt as if the whole link between Char, Lalah, and Amuro was something beyond love as we think of it. I always had the sense that Lalah's strength was just so permeating that it practically subdued Char and Amuro to her. In CCA, especially, as Char and Amuro bicker over Lalah's death, Char says something like "she was like a mother to me" which always struck me as less literal and more to do with the fact that it was hard for him to put into words what she actually meant to him.

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In the Marvel universe, they're X-Men.

Mutants, actually.

Kalessin wrote:

I confess that I've never understood why a number of folks dislike Kira.

No discernible personality whatsoever, yet somehow wildly popular.