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INTEREST: Crunchyroll: Shojo Anime Genre Has Strong Growth Potential


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louis6578



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:01 am Reply with quote
There are a lot of titles. I dunno what crunchyroll is talking about, unless they're just referring to what there's access to on their platform specifically.
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:22 am Reply with quote
It's neat to see that Crunchyroll really does want to see more shojo & female-focused anime to be made, so as to appeal more to those viewers, but this line is what caught my attention the most:

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He encouraged Japanese partners to work with Crunchyroll as a hub for all anime, especially in light of the Funimation merger.


Like, I know that Crunchyroll is going to try to promote themselves as the future of anime streaming, but maybe they should try to avoid blatantly going "Please allow us to become a literal monopoly" with their messaging.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:50 am Reply with quote
Gee, it's almost like people are tired of all the boiler-plate isekai stuff and recognize that shoujo titles do have an audience outside of Japan, and always have had one.
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Saeryen



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 11:59 am Reply with quote
FireChick wrote:
Gee, it's almost like people are tired of all the boiler-plate isekai stuff and recognize that shoujo titles do have an audience outside of Japan, and always have had one.

This exactly. My favorite anime of all time is Natsume's Book of Friends, and I also love shoujo magical girl shows and idol shows. Fruits Basket, Kakuriyo: Bed and Breakfast for Spirits and Kamisama Kiss are all excellent shoujo romances.
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cchigu



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:03 pm Reply with quote
As a person who reads a lot of manga, shoujo demographic is my least favorite by a mile. 90 percent of the stuff is unoriginal and tropy af. There are a few titles here and there that are worth reading but not going to lie, if I notice that a manga is being published in a shojo magazine, I get very skeptical. I mean, shonen demographic manga are also full of tropes but you can always find more entertainment in them in general compared to shojo manga.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:06 pm Reply with quote
Saeryen wrote:
FireChick wrote:
Gee, it's almost like people are tired of all the boiler-plate isekai stuff and recognize that shoujo titles do have an audience outside of Japan, and always have had one.

This exactly. My favorite anime of all time is Natsume's Book of Friends, and I also love shoujo magical girl shows and idol shows. Fruits Basket, Kakuriyo: Bed and Breakfast for Spirits and Kamisama Kiss are all excellent shoujo romances.
Natsume Yuujinchou is one of a kind, probably my favorite shojo manga, I hope we keep getting the sequels for the anime.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:07 pm Reply with quote
It does feel like there are less Shojo anime adaptions lately, at least compared to before. Nowadays they usually get Jdrama or movie adaptions.

Which as a big Shojo manga fan I would love to see change.

Also stating the appeal of well-produced romcoms.
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Saeryen



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:09 pm Reply with quote
cchigu wrote:
As a person who reads a lot of manga, shoujo demographic is my least favorite by a mile. 90 percent of the stuff is unoriginal and tropy af. There are a few titles here and there that are worth reading but not going to lie, if I notice that a manga is being published in a shojo magazine, I get very skeptical. I mean, shonen demographic manga are also full of tropes but you can always find more entertainment in them in general compared to shojo manga.

I don't think that's fair. You could easily say the same thing about shounen stuff (like battle shounen and the male power fantasy isekai trend). And saying "you can always find more entertainment" in shounen makes me feel like you don't like reading about female protagonists which star in most shoujos (most shounens have male protagonists).

I respect that you like what you like, but saying "most shoujo is less fun than shounen" just seems to be a rehash of "it's for girls so therefore it's automatically worse."
cchigu wrote:
Natsume Yuujinchou is one of a kind, probably my favorite shojo manga, I hope we keep getting the sequels for the anime.

I totally agree with this.
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garfield15



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:17 pm Reply with quote
I understand the logic and wouldn't be remiss to it but there's a reason the number of shojo anime have steeply dropped off in recent years compared to the past

FireChick wrote:
Gee, it's almost like people are tired of all the boiler-plate isekai stuff


This is funny because this article literally says "shonen battle anime and "isekai" fantasy series continue to dominate". I'm sick of them too but that's unrealistic to say people are tired of them
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:09 pm Reply with quote
Now if they only cared as much about josei titles.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:43 pm Reply with quote
Shouji is a demographic, not a genre. I still see people confused about this and such article titles don't help. ^^'
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Sariachan wrote:
Shouji is a demographic, not a genre. I still see people confused about this and such article titles don't help. ^^'


And a demographic can be used to help describe a type of anime. All "shojo anime" indicates is anime that is made primarily to appeal to the shojo (i.e. "young woman") demographic. In appealing to that demographic, though, there are many often-used tropes, concepts, & ideas, because they have been proven to consistently work, which in turn can also make "shojo anime" feel like a genre, in & of itself.

It really comes down to how you want to interpret it, and all Crunchyroll was saying was that they'd like to see companies produce more anime that appeals to that demographic, as the few that are getting made have been consistently doing better than expected, which shows that it's a larger demographic than the industry thinks.
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Covnam



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:13 pm Reply with quote
Presumably this is a good sign of growth. As an audience expands, so too does the variety of content they desire.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:32 pm Reply with quote
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Have you ever wondered what would have happened if Sony had not bought the Crunchyroll?
Instead of the demon slayer s2, my dress-up darling and kaguya-sama s2-s3, we was getting the second season of High Guardian Spice
Former Crunchyroll executives (now fired) invested on American political animation with money they received from their subscribers


Okay, you're really jumping the gun on those assumptions there. First of all, High Guardian Spice isn't political, or at least your interpretation of the word. HGS was just a cartoon that got dealt a really bad hand in terms of both marketing, lack of money, and how CR treated all the staff that worked on it, something that the staff on said show have outright told people point blank multiple times online. Any flaws the show had were the result of CR not allowing the writers to go back and rectify them. The only reason the first initial trailer came out the way it did was that CR had the final say in how the show was marketed, not the creators, which the creators of Onyx Equinox flat-out confirmed. Also, the claim that Crunchyroll used subscribers' money to make HGS is a lie, as several articles confirmed that other companies gave CR funding to invest in both co-productions and original programming, one of which ANN even published on here. Seriously, do your research before going off on tangents like this.
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MagicPolly



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 2:42 pm Reply with quote
yuna49 wrote:
Now if they only cared as much about josei titles.

I think the issue is that there genuinely just aren't that many josei anime out there. Going off of MAL statistics, there are only 99 entries tagged with josei compared to 698 shoujo, 893 seinen, and 2013 shounen. And that's not even 99 tv series either, included in that are recap episodes, spinoff OVAs, and comicfesta smut series. 2021 didn't even have any josei anime released aside from the new Hakuoki ova series which started all the way in November, and before that was BokuHaka in winter 2020.
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