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jymmy
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They use DVRs and record them from TV broadcasts. Or watch them on TV, depending on the time of day and whether they can or want to.
The current year is in the very first frame of episode 1 (after the OP): 2015 A.D. There was the odd article on this website and others about it being the year Eva was set in, and they fittingly released the series on Blu-Rei, coinciding as well with the show's 20th anniversary. |
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vonPeterhof
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Paiprince
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The only "hard fact" Justin had was the OECD data. Everything else is just secondhand info he either got from Japantimes or his own "objective" take of the country. You know, because you can't be caught dead saying Japan is better or else be labeled a weaboo on the comments these days. Also, the fact that he's affirming his bias through anime makes it even more suspect. But here, I'll throw you a bone and give you a hard evidence to the contrary. http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/techlit/docs/Levels%20of%20Use.pdf As far as this document is concerned, Japanese people aren't computer illiterate dullards who supposedly "can't into computers." |
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whiskeyii
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Not entirely sure what you're trying to say with that document. It's talking about kids going to school in Maryland, and most of the schools I've been to have a computer lab of some sort, even if it's fairly basic*. If you're trying to make a point about general computer proficiency in the US, though, I'd argue that most people my age (twenties and slightly above) know how to do, if not all, than most of the "Intermediate" stuff, as well as a few basic "Proficient" stuff.
That said, I'm still not sure that has much of anything to do with Japan's general computer proficiency levels. Now, if you had, say, a document detailing the level of computer literacy expected from a public school student in Japan, then at least we'd have something to compare and contrast with. Otherwise, this just seems to reinforce that schools in the US place a high priority on computer literacy. EDIT: *I did some digging; apparently most schools in Japan DO also have computer labs, they just don't seem to get used with the same regularity as in the US, which, when I went to school, usually had at least one class booked for a turn in the computer lab, regardless of the subject (though Economics and Social Studies tended to be the most common). |
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Afezeria
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On topic, it's really is quite surprising seeing that Japan is quite modern in various department, including making robots and such but I guess you learn something all the time. I got a laptop and a desktop, and always used them but mostly to listened to songs, watching anime or movies and playing games. My course doesn't required extensive usage of Microsoft Word related software. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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I read the entire document and I have to agree that, upon hindsight, Justin's viewpoint concerning Japan's computer literacy seems a bit misguided... |
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southplumb
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It's surprising that computer use in Japan is low, given its image and people claiming that complicated kanji are being forgotten or not used. While the US and other countries seem to be rushing to embrace a world in which computers and robots eliminate many human jobs, even jobs requiring college education, creating fears that a jobless future might be coming, and I doubt that means a leisure society, maybe Japan is an unexpected source of resistance. There's a limit to how much a nation can resist technological change, but there could be a positive side to Japanese reluctance to use new technologies, if this is true. On the other hand computers and the Internet do make a lot of things more convenient at the individual level and the Japanese seem to be missing out. |
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Paiprince
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It was made with American students in mind, true, but that doesn't mean the criteria couldn't be applied elsewhere. Besides, I would have to rely on Japanese only sources to get in depth information about their public schools and I couldn't possibly back up my claim if not everyone can read it. And it also depends on the school on how much degree the labs are utilized. Tech institutions and others that focus on STEM fields obviously have more students using them. Japan also has a robust robotics industry and I'm sure as hell they couldn't have done so without computer know-how. |
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leafy sea dragon
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This happens with any group of fans with a small but vocal and obnoxious faction, especially if they exhibit monomania over it (meaning they don't really like anything except the one thing they're a fan of). I'd say most Sonic fans and most Zelda fans enjoy most things and are pretty quiet about things, for instance, but you have the loud persnickety people with short tempers and want to shoehorn their favorite things into anything, then get upset if someone else doesn't share their opinions on everything, and it causes outsiders to have a distorted and negative view of these fans. It becomes guilt by association combined with the squeaky wheel getting the grease. That is, I think a lot of the anti-Japan hate comes from that small group trying to shove Japanophilia in other people's faces so much that liking Japanese things becomes a berserk button. |
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Faiyez
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Japan has also been lagging behind in robotics for years. Just look at the amazing stuff that comes out of Boston Dyanmics these days. We've seen nothing like that from Japan. Remember Asimo? Yeah, we didn't really hear from Asimo again because he has seen NO improvement in all these years. Same awkward, slow walking contraption that trips over itself with as little as a breeze or a pebble on the floor. These days, all Asimo does is make good PR for Honda, and that's about it. Japan is no longer considered to be leading on many fronts. {Edit}: No need for the insulting comment. ~ Psycho 101} |
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Paiprince
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Those types have been dying off since 2010. They either mellow down in their enthusiasm or pull a 180 and join the haters thinking it's the cool thing to hate Japan. If anything, we're seeing posts like above saying choice words like this just to "prove the weebs wrong" (As if his join date and post count weren't obvious enough):
Boston Dynamics' robots are pretty much on the same level of performance as Asimo. If anything, they don't even look aesthetically pleasing to the eye. At least Asimo knows how to cover up. Plus they're being sold off with Toyota a *gasp* Japanese company being one of its potential buyers. |
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Redbeard 101
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Let's cease with the unneeded weaboo comments and discussion please. Thank you.
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Afezeria
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@Leafy Sea Dragon : Okay, appreciated the comment. Thank you. On the other hand, I can't believed the topic about typewriter alone could reached this amount of page altogether. |
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yuna49
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"Computer literacy" is a hard concept to quantify, but the comparatively low rate of computer ownership in Japan is well-known. The Ministry of Communication has collected this data periodically with the results for 2013 appearing here. Nationwide just 57% of households owned a personal computer, ranging from a low of 39% in Kochi province to a high of 66% in Aichi. In contrast, computers are present in over 80% of Korean households. The US is just a couple of points lower than Korea.
You might find this post from a Japanese student at MIT of interest.
I was thinking more about offices where an investment in speech-to-text systems might make sense. |
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Hameyadea
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It was an interesting read, and somewhat surprising, given the fact that Japan has been utilizing technologies such as NFC for over a decade now.
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