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Forum - View topicAnno did it to me again: Kare Kano (spoilers abound)
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ShellBullet
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Well, I just finished watching His and Her Circumstances. It was like EVA all over again; I'm given a great ensamble of characters that are really interesting. I get to care about the them and want to know what happens, only to have to watch the storyline dissipate into nothingness in the last few episodes, in the end leaving me with a sense of incompleteness. Darn it!
It seems like there was not enough story to go around; do we really need a five-minute recap of the entire series at the start of each episode? I think not. With two recap episodes in the middle and another one near the end my patience was wearing thin! The animation, which was at first thoughtful and unique, became more out of control as time went on. It seems like they were trying to make up for the lack of coherent purpose by trying ever weirder animation techniques. Who needs a plot when you can make cardboard cutout animation! 
The pontlessness of the series reached a new high (or should I say low) with the irrelavent episode 25. I couldn't find myself caring in the least about what happened to Yukino's sisters, so why waste my time with them? Don't get me wrong, Kare Kano is still a good series that in the last ten minutes is able to come to some sort of a decent closing. However, it should have been a lot better. |
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eva05
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Well, like Eva, Kare Kano is not about figuring out 1 character or set of characters. In the case of Kare Kano it is about differences between men and women, growing up and discovering things about yourself. Things you may hate, that you can't make better...things about yourself that make you hurt other people or hide yourself from them.
I think Eva also had a similar theme, though Eva also seemed to be about survival mechanisms people employ to deal with life. In Kare Kano there was a full transition arc for pretty much all the characters introduced in the story and as a whole it makes perfect sense to me. I also happen to really like the end of the Eva tv series, and while I really like the movies (except for that awful pop song that plays throughout the middle of the movie "I know I've let you down, etc.") I thought the series ended quite well. I know a lot of folks who thought the end of the series was a let down, etc. I feel bad for people who couldn't see the end of the series for what it was. Anno treats his audience as intelligent people, something increasingly rare in today's anime I feel. He does not bridge all the connections and explain every detail, he leaves that for the viewer. Personally, I really appreicate this. Obviously it's different for everyone. I enjoy the emotional connectiosn that Anno establishes and realize that a lot of his stories are there for background more than anything else. The repeat episodes were obviously done for lack of $. Does that ease the pain? Not really, I know. The second recap episodes were a little better since they had new voice over that actually was quite funny and I thought added even poked fun at the fact they were running out of $ on the project 
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ShellBullet
Posts: 1051 Location: I hit things, with my fist. |
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I do see the point of not completing everything in a story. It's more true to life in a way. As in the of case of Kare Kano, Arima is left with unresolved personal demons. That makes sense to me, many people have emotional scars that don't ever completely heal. Nevertheless they are able to continue living and finding happiness in life. Besides, however mature Arima thinks himself to be, he's still just a teenager and as yet unable to deal with his emotions.
No, the incompleteness of the story is not what I was complaining about. I just wished that the series could have been a bit more focused in the last few episodes. |
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dlingaddict
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Yah i hear what you're saying, kare kano was a great series. The manga is goin on still, i forget who owns the liscense. The manga is good, for the few volumes that i saw. Whenever i get a steady paycheck, so much of my cash is going towards anime and manga, and i'm going to buy all the volumes of kare kano available.
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eva05
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Hmm well I thought the last 2-3 episodes were particularly important, especially for the relations of Arima, Yukino, the boy toy, the volley ball girl and her rival (sorry forgot their names, I haven't seen Kare Kano in like a year). It's especially important and it brings everything to head as I recall? j |
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littlegreenwolf
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I was really dissapointed when I first finished the Kare Kano series. Turns out Anno was willing to go into more then the episodes we had, but he wanted to make it more of a comedy, and the original creator of the manga wanted it to continue staying true to the manga, in it's practical word for word way *I am serious, get the first volume of the manga and watch the first ep, and it's EXACTLY THE SAME other then different wording and the fact that it's been slapped on tv so something here and there was cut out*. So Anno and the manga-ka weren't agreeing, and Kare Kano the anime ended there, while the manga series went on. The anime ended around vol 10 I believe, so if you want to see what happens next, pick up the manga from then on.
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Fenrir
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You got it backwards. Anno wanted the anime to be darker and asked the manga-ka to explore Arima's dark side more in future manga for the hope of doing a second season. The reason the anime ended was because they got to a point where the anime and manga were actually at the same point. They caught each other therefore the could not continue the series without being true to the manga. Thus Kare Kano ended.
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zaphdash
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No, Gainax employees have said in interviews that the show was ended because the mangaka wasn't happy with the direction the anime was going. Apparently the story was supposed to be more of a romance, and the anime emphasized comedy too much. In fact, I believe the specific interview I have in mind was linked on this site some time ago (by which I mean years, not months or weeks), so if you're really interested in it, you can troll the archives and try to find it...frankly I don't feel like doing that. |
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Dilandau
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Hao! I am a former employee of the Right Stuf International (the US version of the anime).
You are true that it did not have an ending. The reason is that Gainax planned the series to last 2 seasons, not one. But the Japanese viewers weren't all that excited about the series so it dwindled and died so to speak. Personally I like the series a lot. I like the psycho gainax art perspective (it was a more perfected version of what they tried with Eva), and Episode 10(11?) where Yukino goes psycho was Dragon Half funny! 
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