Forum - View topicThe Best and Worst of the Season So Far: Weeks of Oct 1-21 [2017-10-26]
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Blood-
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I feel pretty sure that King's Game will "win" that battle. It's real rival is Evil or Live which of course isn't showing up because it's not being reviled... er, I mean, it's not being reviewed. |
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Angel M Cazares
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It is popular in Japan but not so much over here. I am frankly surprised at its ranking; I thought it was going to be lower. |
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dtm42
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Sad to see AMB being in number one place. I am positive that if the manga weren't already beloved (or it was anime-original) then it wouldn't get the top spot. There are two shows which narrowly beat it and four which go so far as to blow it out of the water. Seventh best of the season is a respectable placing but nowhere near the god-tier best-show-of-the-past-few-years masterpiece that people claim it to be.
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zrnzle500
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With all due respect, those are in your opinion, which is perfectly valid and reasonable. But in terms of the aggregate of this site's users, the only show of the top ten on this site that gets higher average ratings is Gintama, and that may be chalked up to differences in viewerbases for both shows (though I remember Gintama's ratings being a little lower during the preview guide). It isn't blowing the other shows out of the water, but it has gotten consistently better ratings than the rest of the shows this season, and therefore it is no surprise that it is on top. By the by, which are the shows that in your opinion edge out AMB and the ones that blow it out of the water? |
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Silent-Ninja
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3-gatsu no Lion S2's ranking makes me sad and doesn't get enough love imo.  I also hope the same for its future in the rankings. It's my AOTS (including sequels).
Agreed about Girls' Last Tour. It's certainly the surprise of the season and has such beautiful tonal contrast. |
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Angel M Cazares
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I visit ANN everyday, and I have not seen people claiming that AMB is a masterpiece and the best show of the last few years. It has certainly been very hyped, but I don't think it is blowing people away yet. That being said, AMB is the best show from this young season; it is no masterpiece, but it is a solid show that is probably going to become better. |
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CrowLia
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I can't believe James's reign of terror over the bottom of the rankings has finally ended
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SeeKai
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For me, kekkai sensen, 3-gatsu no lion and Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou are better shows than AMB.
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I'm actually not surprised at MMO Junkie, the word around ANN (including the recent This Week in Anime) and even Crunchyroll has been very positive, and I'm all for it as a Comico fan. Should I jump on the Girls' Last Tour train though? |
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zrnzle500
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They had to give the guy a break some time. Or at least he got tired of doing that season in, season out. Though I will say I think at least one (Vatican Miracle Examiners) was more accidental than intentional. Let us now ring in a new reign of terror over the bottom under Chris.
Actually, looking at the cumulative rankings, 9 does seem about right, so I guess it was more that the third episode got top 5 in the weeklies, but that was a good episode. If you're interested in Girl's Last Tour, I would check it out. While the first two episodes didn't quite match the expectations I had coming in, the third episode did manage to reach that level and was a great episode. While it isn't my favorite this season, it's definitely on the upper end of my list for this season. |
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relyat08
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Interestingly, Evil or Live is the only one of these three shows that I'm actually still following. I didn't even try Dies irae after reading the previews, but King's Game was mean-spirited in a way that kind of upset me, and I dropped that in the second episode. Evil or Live somehow hasn't felt mean-spirited in the same way as King's Game, but has all of the same ridiculous over-the-top stuff that people say makes King's Game fun.
Have you seen the first series or read the novels? If yes, you may be disappointed. If no, give it a shot. It's a decent action show with some interesting, if a little confused, philosophy.
I think older fans of Kino are sort of disappointed with the direction that it has gone so far. The first episode was definitely the strongest, but the second and third have both been fairly controversial in both their content and the particular way they were adapted. So far it hasn't really offered the kind of stuff that I mostly go to Kino for, and I feel like that is a shared sentiment among a lot of fans. It has been reasonably well received by many new-comers to the franchise though, according to CR comments at least(notoriously not the best place to look for genuine opinions on a show, admittedly). |
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Joshua Zarate
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I’m personally fine seeing AMB at the top. It’s my number one for this season so far as is also the same with many others, but it looks like it didn’t quite click the same way with everyone as it did for me. That’s fine, we all have different wants, and it’s currently just the first three episodes as this list shows us. Still plenty of time for it and other series to develop and become more enjoyable (or not).
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Niello
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Personally I am expecting Girl's Last Tour to over take AMB soon. The only it's up so high is mainly because of hype and manga readers, I can really imagine it being much else. There are a number of anime (old and new) this season whose episodes have been outdoing AMB. The story should become stronger as it progresses, but I don't have faith in it. The dragon episode has really good material for them to work with, and as far as I'm concern the anime didn't make good use of that potential nearly as much as they should have.
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I read volume 1 and 2 of the light novel and watched the anime years later. I know it's a bit too early to ask. I wasn't impressed by the first two episodes. Although not bad, it feels generic. Because it's Kino I don't want to get disappointed, but if it can hold up well, then I don't quite want to miss watching it weekly as it becomes available either. I might end up asking the same question around mid way through the season. Last edited by Niello on Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:45 am; edited 1 time in total |
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dtm42
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Of course it is on top, given the high ratings it is garnering from fans. But what I was pondering is that if there was no source material - and therefore no established fanbase - would the show have gotten anywhere near this amount of love and attention? Of course not. And furthermore, it is my belief that it would not have gotten the impressive ratings either, because the hype would not have existed. You agree that it is not blowing other shows out of the water. Naturally, I believe the reason for this is because it is not as good as other shows in the first place. Hence, my answer to your following question:
Right-oh. Inuyashiki, Just Because!, Recovery of an MMO Junkie, and Girls' Last Tour are all in my view clearly superior to AMB. While the four make an eclectic mix, each one has a great cast of characters and is guided by a wonderful directorial effort. Characters and direction; two areas where AMB is struggling, so that isn't a surprise. Children of the Whales and Konohana Kitan are slightly better than AMB, and yes I accept this is not a widely-held viewpoint. But the former has superior world-building and an interesting plot, while the latter I'm not (yet) watching BBB&B or March Comes in Like a Lion 2 (I plan to rewatch the first seasons of both of them before tackling their sequels), so for all I know they could be in the running too.
Yeah, I overdid it a bit with the hyperbole. That said, the ratings it has thus-far received are completely at odds with the actual quality I'm seeing from it.
Hey hey, first you say that AMB isn't blowing people away and then you claim it is the best of the season. I hope it becomes better. At the moment it is anime's most overhyped 7.5/10. Which like I said is still a respectable score, just not the tour de force of character writing I was told to prepare for. If it's holding its cards to its chest then now is about time to reveal them, methinks. |
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zrnzle500
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@Niello No, only Gintama has higher ratings than AMB. I checked. I can make a table of all of the episodes covered by these rankings if need be. Unless it drops a bit and Girl’s Last Tour keeps at its rating for the third episode, Girl’s Last Tour is not set to over take it, as its first three episodes only get a 4.1, 4.3, and 4.5 to AMB’s 4.5, 4.4, and 4.5. It has to overtake 4 other shows first though. DBS does have the best rated episode in the time span, but anyone can see that it is ready to fall from its current second place cumulative rank anytime now.
@dtm42 I don’t think just hype can sustain the show even for this long. If most didn’t believe believe that it was meeting that hype, it wouldn’t be rated so highly, though of course you are free to disagree. Inuyashiki does have better direction, though one might take issue with their use of CG in a few scenes beyond the parts where the characters are in robotic form. I will admit to sharing the concerns about the author’s previous work, which also prevents me from elevating it further. While I really like Just Because and I think the direction is very ambitious, it’s also unpolished, as that ambitiousness is a bit more than the studio can handle right now, and the production is suffering as a result, which makes it hard for me to see it as clearly superior. And while I also like the characters, I’m not sure that feeling was widely shared, at least of the first episode. Let’s just say ANN is one of the few sites where the show is so highly regarded by the site’s users, and this is coming from someone who agrees with the ratings on this site of the show. MMO Junkie has been enjoyable, but I can’t agree that the direction is great. I wouldn’t say it was bad, but its visual execution is very modest overall. The characters have a nice rapport and are relatable, but I don’t know that I would say the character writing is particularly deep or clearly superior to AMB’s. I actually feel the same way about Girl’s Last Tour, at least the first two episodes, as you feel about AMB. I did like those episodes but I didn’t feel they quite lived up to the hype. While I didn’t find it as disagreeable as other, I can see why some took issue with its use of CG. I haven’t seen Children of the Whales because of Netflix, but I’ve heard good things. As for Konoha Kitan, I’ve definitely enjoyed it, but what makes you feel the world building is superior? I’m much more fascinated by AMB’s world. It’s still early in the season so anything can happen. We’ll see but I think AMB has more staying power than you two give it credit. |
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