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REVIEW: Popotan DVD


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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:34 am Reply with quote
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vashfanatic wrote:
giascle wrote:
You do realize this is based on an H-game, right? The fanservice is kind of to be expected.


So are Kanon and Air. H-game adaptations aren't a guarantee of constant nudity.


Those are KyoAni shows, though; they know they can get a lot more viewers making it all-ages than keeping the fanservice. SHAFT just kind of does what they want.


Oh I know, it's different companies. I'm just pointing out that because something is an H-game doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be riddled with nudity. If you said "this is based on an H-game and made by Shaft," then I'd have no complaints with your statement. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:02 pm Reply with quote
*casually whistles and mentions the Ef series*
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:08 pm Reply with quote
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*casually whistles and mentions the Ef series*


Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:09 pm Reply with quote
Based on an H-game and produced by Shaft.

I don't recall there being much of any, if at all, fanservice.

Granted I skipped over most of Chihiro's story cause I'm sick of amnesia.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:02 pm Reply with quote
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Based on an H-game and produced by Shaft.

I don't recall there being much of any, if at all, fanservice.

Granted I skipped over most of Chihiro's story cause I'm sick of amnesia.


There's more fanservice than in the Key adaptations, although it's all just brief shots, very tastefully done. But it is true that Shaft, as a whole, is more likely to indulge in fan service. My point still stands, though, that just because something is adapted from an H-game doesn't automatically mean it's going to be rife with nudity. That's all I was saying, I didn't mean to start a whole debate on it! Shocked

Anyway, Theron's whole point with the nudity was that it felt as though the series used that to compensate for its initial storytelling flaws. He's one of the most forgiving, even celebrating, reviewers on fan service - he will almost always list it as a plus.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:13 pm Reply with quote
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While I have no issues with cartoon nudity, I most certainly stopped its viewing until I was alone in the house. Most nudity is acceptable in adult form by casual observers, but trying to explain Mii would be extraordinarily difficult, especially when trying to use the crap story as the excuse.

So, for those who are itching to buy this title, just be warned of the up-and-coming porn star named Mii, as she definitely shows her love for the girl-on-girl action by face planting herself in her guest's chest to check out their "puffy puffs".

You should see her in the original game!

And maybe I'm just less sensitive to anime's tendacy to sexualize pre-teens (though I was pretty shocked by that one episode of Dokkoida), or maybe it's because no one in the show was viewing or treating her as a sex object, but I can't even remember most of the Mii nudity. The only thing that sticks out in my mind is when she was running around naked after a bath, avoiding Mai's attempts to dry her hair, but that just struck me as impish mischief.

giascle wrote:
vashfanatic wrote:
giascle wrote:
You do realize this is based on an H-game, right? The fanservice is kind of to be expected.

So are Kanon and Air. H-game adaptations aren't a guarantee of constant nudity.


Those are KyoAni shows, though

More importantly, those games are by Key, where the sex has never fit in very well and is rare besides, making it easy to take out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:54 pm Reply with quote
I actually liked this series quite a bit. The later episodes get very good and have great story and I loved how events that happened in the first episodes eventually tied into things that happened toward the end. If you don't go in expecting alot you will probably be pleasantly surprised.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:12 pm Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
You should see her in the original game!

Such enthusiasm. Thanks, but I'll pass. Not really into these types of games. Truth be told, anymore, I'm not really into any type of game. Hardcore to casual to "meh, time to kill a few minutes."

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...or maybe it's because no one in the show was viewing or treating her as a sex object...

True. We could easily see Mii as nothing more than a young girl having fun. But then we run into those postal employees who see a static image and get someone thrown in jail. Imagine what they'd do over a moving image.

My remark was to warn those who want this title to beware of those people who probably can't get past the developing chest without thinking the viewer as a pedophile.

I'm sure we all know these people in our lives. You know, the ones who object against underage cartoon nudity but have no problem of a teenage girl dressed in sexy outfits to sell music because she has such a wonderful voice.
Heh. Sorry. Couldn't pass up the irony.

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...but I can't even remember most of the Mii nudity...

I chuckled at this as the series itself would have one desensitized in a matter of 3 episodes.
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...dandelions are more commonly regarded as a weed than a flower of any esteem here in the States, so the series' fascination with them will doubtless leave many American viewers (especially those whose home life involves yard maintenance) scratching their heads.

In my case, I view the plant in question as a free and reliable source of fresh rabbit food. I'm not going to propose that dandelions are the most sightly of garden inhabitants, but there is at least a single use for them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:36 pm Reply with quote
Anyone who likes Dandelion and Burdock will probably appreciate it also (can't stand the stuff personally), and kids always have fun when they go to seed. You can also use the roots as a coffee substitute or you can use it as a diuretic.

PetrifiedJello wrote:
Fronzel wrote:
You should see her in the original game!

Such enthusiasm. Thanks, but I'll pass.

He's not kidding - she's an outright nyphomaniac in the game.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:52 pm Reply with quote
Shows like these must be difficult for girls to stomach watching. For male otaku (especially the ones who own the actual game it's based on), it's a nonstop fap fantasy fest. Honestly, there's more to life than boobies. Not watching it
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:40 pm Reply with quote
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Honestly, there's more to life than boobies

LIES

Anyway John from animenation like this anime, even saying it's a lot deeper than people give credit for and he's one of the few people in the Industry I respect so I'm definitely checking this series out
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:12 pm Reply with quote
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Anyway John from animenation like this anime, even saying it's a lot deeper than people give credit for and he's one of the few people in the Industry I respect so I'm definitely checking this series out


Although I respect Ask John a lot, I also disagree with his opinion on many things (mostly English dubs, but I won't go there). He's convinced me to watch series in the past (I picked up Princess Tutu because of him), but he's off base on this one. Yes, there is some depth, but let's not give the series undeserved credit.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:19 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
animeboy12 wrote:
Anyway John from animenation like this anime, even saying it's a lot deeper than people give credit for and he's one of the few people in the Industry I respect so I'm definitely checking this series out


Although I respect Ask John a lot, I also disagree with his opinion on a many things (mostly English dubs, but I won't go there). He's convinced me to watch series in the past (I picked up Princess Tutu because of him), but he's off base on this one. Yes, there is some depth, but let's not give the series undeserved credit.

But isn't "some depth" "a lot deeper than people give credit for"?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:43 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
animeboy12 wrote:
Anyway John from animenation like this anime, even saying it's a lot deeper than people give credit for and he's one of the few people in the Industry I respect so I'm definitely checking this series out


Although I respect Ask John a lot, I also disagree with his opinion on a many things (mostly English dubs, but I won't go there). He's convinced me to watch series in the past (I picked up Princess Tutu because of him), but he's off base on this one. Yes, there is some depth, but let's not give the series undeserved credit.

well it's kinda hard to be off-base on a opinion Laughing but who knows this maybe one of those cases where I might disagree with him as well as I've seen an unusually large amount of scorn for this series and it's not just from the typical "It hate fanservice" crowd. At the same time it's not like the series failed in any categories (unless C is failing?) of this review so it's not like it's not worth a glimpse at least
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