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wao
Joined: 04 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:13 am
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I absolutely loved this show, it's one of my favourite shows of all time. Quirky, mysterious and yet haunting all at the same time. Some may dislike it because it's not as subtle, but I doubt it was intended to be a subtle type of series. Instead, it's more about seeing how things link and figuring out some less obvious things...
Episode 8 was a riot, I remember when it first came out via *other methods* people were discussing all about it... It's been hailed as Satoru Utsunomiya's crowning achievement... Some might hate the ep because it looks badly drawn to some people, but it's actually very good animation... anyway, take good notice of the shadows!
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:26 am
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i love the dub of this episode, especially how Maria says "Daddy". my only complaint is Maria's answering machine messages sounded more psychotic in the japanese version, and i wished they would have emphasized that more strongly
next week's episode is the weakest of the series, but it does lead up to something interesting.
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DKL
Joined: 08 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:51 pm
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whaddya mean man, "A MAN'S PATH" was AWESOME
I like the parallelism they used here... wait, is that what it's called?
it was hilarious
yeah, episode 8 had a change in character designs, but it still looked very good
this is the worst inconsistency you'll get in the series, mainly since the different key animators seem to have injected their own style into it
which was okay by me, I liked it
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The Frankman
Joined: 19 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:12 pm
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What do I think of this show? Well, it's got the strangest opening for a Japanese anime using opera (is it opera?) music. Kinda of like a widescale version of Perfect Blue.
Ep. 1- What'shername needed a spine.
Ep. 2- Ichi needed a butt-whupping.
Ep. 3- Hiromi/Maria needed one less personality.
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DKL
Joined: 08 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:16 pm
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Doesn't Susumu Hirasawa's music use like... those synthesizer *sp?* thingies from the 80s? *that are sometimes used in porn videos or something? *
It's pretty nifty
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thejetman
Joined: 14 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:59 pm
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FYI, I'm not trolling for a flame war, but after reading the entire thread to this point, I can't believe I'm watching the same series as the rest of the posters. Needless to say, IMO, PA is pointless drivel. If you like it, more power to you. I don't find anything in the series so far (ie. three episodes), creepy, suspenseful, or even intellectually challenging ! Is a maniac eleven year-old with a broken baseball bat scary ? I was born and raised in the South Bronx and some of the dialog describing this little wanna-be sociopath boggles the mind. Was this written by a kid as his/her idea of how adults are supposed to act and speak ? Oh yeah, the intro where you have a series of people standing facing the camera laughing (at what ?), that's real award-winning stuf !
BTW, I love the visuals, they are nothing short of exceptional, but as I pointed out in another thread, I don't care about the characters (no development), where's the plot, dialog is stilted and uncompelling, and why should I wait for them to get around these minor details in a few weeks ? Even if this series is cast as some sort of anthology, the 1st episode must give me a concrete reason to keep coming back for more. I'd love to see a non-action oriented anime series, but if this is the best that they can do, I'll pass.
Yet another POV. Later....Jet
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DKL
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:13 pm
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Wow, I'm actually amazed that you'd put it out like that
Anyway, it's not really suppose to be like... scary
This is more of an analysis of how society deals with it's problems
Is the child with a bat really there? or did we create it to solve our problems?
I don't think you're looking at the bigger picture here... but if it does bore you this far in, of course, you should not watch, I'm just saying that your viewpoint of saying that there's no intellectual depth is kinda off and totally biased *well, that is what you're geting at, corect?*
The intro also, has no real meaning... according to KON, the series aired late at night in JAPAN, so he wanted something that would wake people up
It's that simple
Anyway, I'm getting all defensive, I'm sure this won't go anywhere... so I guess your point of view is just... there
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thejetman
Joined: 14 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:59 pm
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DKL wrote: | Wow, I'm actually amazed that you'd put it out like that
Anyway, it's not really suppose to be like... scary
I suspect PA is an anime attempt at an anthology like the 'Twilght Zone'
This is more of an analysis of how society deals with it's problems
Is the child with a bat really there? or did we create it to solve our problems?
I don't think you're looking at the bigger picture here... but if it does bore you this far in, of course, you should not watch, I'm just saying that your viewpoint of saying that there's no intellectual depth is kinda off and totally biased *well, that is what you're geting at, corect?*
The intro also, has no real meaning... according to KON, the series aired late at night in JAPAN, so he wanted something that would wake people up
It's that simple
Anyway, I'm getting all defensive, I'm sure this won't go anywhere... so I guess your point of view is just... there |
If you love something and I say it sucks, take a deep breath. It's not an attack on your taste in entertainment. After all, that's what this is. Keep in miind, I also said the animation is awesome, just IMO the stories don't meet the extremely high std of the visuals.
Am I biased ? I think that's a poor choice of words, but I'll elaborate on what I really mean. Wanna tell a story ? The formula is simple: introduce the principal character, present the protagonist w/ a dilema, then systematically reveal how the protagonist copes or fails to cope w/ the situation. This is all Storytelling 101. Those are my expectations and I don't perceive that they've been met. Actually, the third episode on AS was closest to the formula and would've been just fine, exc I'm not really sure if this is a continuing series or an anthology. Why ? Continuity. If it's continuing series, then the viewer expects a thread/storyline that holds ea episode together w/ its antecedents and predesessors. If it is in fact an anthology, then the stds are slightly different, but one must nevertheless tell a story.
I could go on, but I gave them three episodes to win me over and they've failed. I don't care about the characters or what happens to them. This is my beef w/ most current anime, like Ghost in the Shell, (esp) Gundam Seed, etc.
I doubt that you'll agree w/ that perspective, but so be it. I've had my say, thanks for reading. Later....Jet[/b][/quote]
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DKL
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:04 am
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well, I actually like an opinion when you fix it up better like that
you're free to go *har har har*
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DaGreatKobe
Joined: 21 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:37 am
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i kinda just recently jumped into the show... so im lost. i still watch it though. kinda putting the pieces together.
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Silverwolf
Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:16 am
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To me i'ts kinda weird where the two detectives are going after li'l slugger. He attacks his victoms when they are least exspecting anything to happen.
[/quote]" Do what she says Ed, drink the dumb milk."
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Nagisa
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:39 am
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Silverwolf wrote: | To me i'ts kinda weird where the two detectives are going after li'l slugger. He attacks his victoms when they are least exspecting anything to happen. |
It's more like Li'l Slugger strikes when the person's stress & anxiety levels have peaked. When the person cannot take it anymore is when he strikes, and he seems to take out the root cause of their suffering, too (Akio for Sagi, Usshi for Ichi, Maria for Harumi...the guy in last Saturday's episode doesn't count because that wasn't the real Li'l Slugger...at least I don't think so, anyway).
Silverwolf wrote: | " Do what she says Ed, drink the dumb milk." |
Stop doing the false-signature thing. It's against the rules, it's pointless, and it's a pretty lame quote, to boot.
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Dagwood
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:25 am
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How do I think of Paranoia Agent, I use my bain, I mean brain .
Quote: | The formula is simple: introduce the principal character, present the protagonist w/ a dilema, then systematically reveal how the protagonist copes or fails to cope w/ the situation. This is all Storytelling 101. |
You have a good point, but in this case it seems the antagonist is the principal character and the protagonists are not. The protagonists cope with their dilemmas through Lil' Slugger, and it is Lil' Slugger who holds the series together as a whole. I haven't seen further than episode 4, but from the episodes I have seen, what others have said, and "Storytelling 101," we haven't seen the last of the protagonists. I don't think it's just a bunch of random stories. This seems to be one of those shows you need to see in its entirety to fully grasp the purpose and intent, and to see where the characters are going and where they will take us. I like it; it's not your typical way of telling a story.
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Key
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:46 am
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Those who haven't seen the series past episodes 3 or 4 will find out that things take quite a bit of a different turn beginning with episode 5. Labelling the first few episodes as "Storytelling 101" is inaccurate in this case, since there's more going on than that in some of those episodes and they are crucial for establishing a pattern to set up what happens later on. Also, almost everything that happens in episode 1 is very meaningful for later in the story. (Remember when Marumi said "it's not your fault" to Tsukiko, the character designer? That doesn't mean what you might think at first and is very, very important in the late stages of the series.)
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v1cious
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:11 pm
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did that guy rape that little girl or something in episode 4? this is only my second time watching it, but i rembember in episode 6 it's revealed that he's a pedophile
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