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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:00 am Reply with quote
I've finished watching the final DVD in Tenjho Tenge. and throughout the entire series, Maya refers to Souichiro as "Boy." At least that's what the subtitles say.

When I listen to the Japanese words it sounds like she's saying "Bozo." Is that the correct term for "Boy"? Or am I just hearing things?

Of course, the term "Bozo" does fit Souichiro sometimes.

Thanks in advance!
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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:08 am Reply with quote
From what I've read it's a term a older sister or brother would use to refer to their younger brother. Sort of like "squirt" is english.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:29 am Reply with quote
I think it means something along the lines of "kid" or "brat", and the one using the term is looking down upon the one (s)he is referring to (and is almost always older). I think it's "bouzu" and not "bozo", and if I'm not mistaken it is similar to and is perhaps a variation of "kouzo".

Well, "Bimbo" means poor...(It's actually "Binbou", but close enough).

[EDIT] Typofix.


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Abarenbo Shogun



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:04 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
I think it's "bouzo" and not "bozo",


Wikiality (a portmanteau of "Wikipedia" and "reality") wrote:
His nickname, "Negi Bōzu", is another pun since while "Bōzu" can be translated as "brat", "Negi Bōzu" literally means "Onion Head".
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:10 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
I think it means something along the lines of "kid" or "brat", and the one using the term is looking down upon the one (s)he is referring to (and is almost always older). I think it's "bouzo" and not "bozo", and if I'm not mistaken it is similar to and is perhaps a variation of "kouzo".

Well, "Bimbo" means poor...(It's actually "Binbou", but close enough).
It is bouzu, as frentymon says, which can be translated as "boy" in the slang, slightly insulting sense. The technical term for boy would be otoko no ko, danshi, or some other less common combinations.
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Webki



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:50 am Reply with quote
And I'll add that I've only seen it used with siblings or with people who are close. So don't just call someone younger than you "bouzu," stick with -kun (or -chan when appropriate).
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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:07 am Reply with quote
Ah ha!

Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:10 pm Reply with quote
Funimation translated the title Sunabouzu as Desert Punk. I think the best translation would be kid. In any case I would take offense to being refered to as bozou. I always think of gaki as an equivalent for brat.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:51 am Reply with quote
Abarenbo Shogun wrote:
frentymon wrote:
I think it's "bouzo" and not "bozo",


Wikiality (a portmanteau of "Wikipedia" and "reality") wrote:
His nickname, "Negi Bōzu", is another pun since while "Bōzu" can be translated as "brat", "Negi Bōzu" literally means "Onion Head".


Heh, I wrote that so take it with a pinch of salt:P
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Abarenbo Shogun



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:31 pm Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
Abarenbo Shogun wrote:
frentymon wrote:
I think it's "bouzo" and not "bozo",


Wikiality (a portmanteau of "Wikipedia" and "reality") wrote:
His nickname, "Negi Bōzu", is another pun since while "Bōzu" can be translated as "brat", "Negi Bōzu" literally means "Onion Head".


Heh, I wrote that so take it with a pinch of salt:P


Del Ray in the Negima! books wrote:
Bozu: This is an informal way to refer to a boy, similar to the English term "kid" or "squirt."
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Shonen Bat



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:02 pm Reply with quote
Kagemusha wrote:
From what I've read it's a term a older sister or brother would use to refer to their younger brother. Sort of like "squirt" is english.


I think "bozu" means "brat". At least from where I heard it. It could also mean kid. BTW I have my own question, since "Ni-san means "Big brother" does that mean "Ni-chan" means "Little brother"? Just curious.
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undeadben



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:10 pm Reply with quote
Ni-chan, I think, is just a more affectionate way of saying it, but it is still older brother.

Younger brother would be otouto (I'm not sure it's written that way), which is similar to imouto for younger sister.

I think... Confused

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, which I probably am.
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hanachan01



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:15 pm Reply with quote
If oniisan(older brother) can become niisan, and if oneesan(older sister) can become neesan, can otoutosan(little brother) become toutosan?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:26 pm Reply with quote
hanachan01 wrote:
If oniisan(older brother) can become niisan, and if oneesan(older sister) can become neesan, can otoutosan(little brother) become toutosan?

No, because it's two different kinds of "o".

Looking first at o-nii-san and o-nee-san, what's happening there is that the word for "older brother" or "older sister" is being equipped with an honorific prefix (o-) and an honorific suffix (-san). In the case of otouto, on the other hand, this is the whole reading. The initial "o" is part of the word, not a prefix.

Looking at the kanji, the (kun-yomi) readings are clear:

兄 -- ani, normally transformed to nii -- "older brother"
姉 -- ane, normally transformed to nee -- "older sister"
弟 -- otouto -- "younger brother"

Incidentally, this also answers the question implicit in undeadben's post. As he surmised, -chan, like -san, is an honorific suffix, but where -san is a standard honorific that is useful in all circumstances, -chan carries a tone of intimacy and even affection.

- abunai
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Shonen Bat



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:43 pm Reply with quote
All right. Thanks guys. This helps me out alot.
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