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halo



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:25 pm Reply with quote
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...Citrus is more like a painting of a dumpster fire


This is the single most brilliant analogy I've seen in a long time.
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Yune Amagiri



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:52 pm Reply with quote
Definitely not a show for everyone but clearly not trash, everything about citrus is decent-good, i enjoy the manga and so far this adaptation is better that I was expecting when they announced it. As long you aren't picky about everything it is perfectly acceptable.
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How can NTR be less uncomfortable than any scene in Citrus? Just because it wasn't graphic? The implications of what happened is still there, and hell, we see a girl with a black eye forcing herself to have sex with a guy she doesn't like. Citrus might have some sexual assault scenes, but NTR was legit rape.
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Wtv wrote:
How can NTR be less uncomfortable than any scene in Citrus? Just because it wasn't graphic? The implications of what happened is still there, and hell, we see a girl with a black eye forcing herself to have sex with a guy she doesn't like. Citrus might have some sexual assault scenes, but NTR was legit rape.


its one of the reasons why i avoided it like the plague. dont get me wrong i like yuri series, and i like trashy fanservice series too (ie OniAi , Aki Sora , Girls Bravo and kodomo no jikan) , but yea...... NTR is definitely trashy. and NOT IN A GOOD WAY!! that series as well as scum's wish deserves to be in the worst series of 2017 in more ways than one.

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I will admit that I'm a big fan of Citrus' director, Takeo Takahashi. He worked on one of my favorite shows of all time, Spice & Wolf, but he also adapted the legendary visual novel, Yosuga no Sora. So in my estimation, he's already proven that he can give the trashiest source material possible the thoughtful, beautiful, and cheeky adaptation that it might not deserve. I don't know if Citrus will live up to Yosuga no Sora's heights, but I think he's done a commendable job so far.


afraid it wont happen. and its due to the fact that unlike in yosuga no sora, those two AREN'T blood related. and i wont be surprised at the slightest that the reason its like that is due to the "oreimo curse!"

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I will defend it to my grave. (And in Hell, which is where I'm going, because I enjoy Yosuga no Sora.)


well, you'll definitely have me in that corner as well Laughing

cause its light novels/visual novels like yosuga no sora, sister princess , and especially Koi Kaze , Cress Celestial Legend & Angel Sancutary that make me a die hard fan of love stories involving this genre. Cool
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Blood-



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:43 pm Reply with quote
I recently gave up on this show. Once you realize you don't care if the main couple gets married or dies in a fire, it's time to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:07 pm Reply with quote
Good column.

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AholePony



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Every episode I wonder to myself: if Yuzu's mom married this guy and he's obviously quite wealthy, and they live in this fancy huge apartment, why in the hell do the two daughters have to share a bedroom?! Why the hell do they only have one bed?! My theory is that the mother and father are some kinda sick perverts that are experimenting on their poor daughters, to what end, I have no idea. Sad
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BalmungHHQ



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:47 pm Reply with quote
AholePony wrote:
Every episode I wonder to myself: if Yuzu's mom married this guy and he's obviously quite wealthy, and they live in this fancy huge apartment, why in the hell do the two daughters have to share a bedroom?! Why the hell do they only have one bed?! My theory is that the mother and father are some kinda sick perverts that are experimenting on their poor daughters, to what end, I have no idea. Sad

If some kind of plot twist like this actually happened in Citrus, the series would instantly skyrocket to a 10/10 for me, lol.
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lossthief



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:56 pm Reply with quote
Wtv wrote:
How can NTR be less uncomfortable than any scene in Citrus? Just because it wasn't graphic? The implications of what happened is still there, and hell, we see a girl with a black eye forcing herself to have sex with a guy she doesn't like. Citrus might have some sexual assault scenes, but NTR was legit rape.


It's more to do with the direction/framing of the scenes in each show. NTR has lots of awful stuff going on, but usually either doesn't show it, or animates it in a way that's meant to be salacious or appealing to the viewer. Textually it is far more objectionable than Citrus, but in terms of how it's delivered to the viewer, it doesn't have much impact.

Citrus, on the other hand, is a lot more visceral with the assault scenes. Mei's forced kiss in the first episode is framed like she's strangling Yuzu, and we see quick cuts of Yuzu flailing as she tries to fight back, while Mei's face is obscured or kept off camera. It's more upsetting to look at because it's meant to be, basically.
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TsukasaElkKite



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:17 pm Reply with quote
It’s a stained glass dumpster fire.
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dragonslayer023



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:23 pm Reply with quote
How could you watch the whole show up to this point and still call it trash? It's clearly well made, thoughtful, and respectful of its characters. But nope lesbian incest so TRASH. You cover anime for a living, you seriously need to get over it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:53 pm Reply with quote
dragonslayer023 wrote:
How could you watch the whole show up to this point and still call it trash? It's clearly well made, thoughtful, and respectful of its characters. But nope lesbian incest so TRASH. You cover anime for a living, you seriously need to get over it.


All your claims in the bolded statement are highly debatable. If you want to see a clearly well made, thoughtful and respectful of its characters show that also deals with a conceptually problematic relationship, you are much better off to be watching After the Rain.
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Parsifal24



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:15 pm Reply with quote
I only watched the first episode of this that was enough this will probably end up in the same place as Super Lovers in that it will be appreciated by those who enjoy this sort of thing. Also interesting to hear Yosuga no Sora mentioned and I know the line about defending it in Hell to paraphrase liberally was meant as a rhetorical device but Res ipsa loquitur.
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vestenet



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:38 pm Reply with quote
I know we toss around the term a lot in this column, but for the record, my official position is "trash is good actually"
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We get both the questionable "girl moves in with a new jackass sibling/love interest" setup from shoujo manga combined with all the nonsense of trashy yuri. Yet despite the one-two of problematic genres, I think I'm kind of down with this show? It's not great, but it's also not the most reprehensible thing you could be watching.


I'm a simple user who is curious how these shoujo premises are in a yuri variation, and man Citrus just delivers. I'm just having a romping good time watching this since we have a yuri title that's a no-nonsense romance title and doesn't drag too much.

Now someone should make yuri version of Fushigi Yuugi where a girl gets transported to another world and has a harem team of other girls fighting for her against some evil doer.
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