Forum - View topic
REVIEW: Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash Novel 5




Note: this is the discussion thread for this article

Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TarsTarkas



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Posts: 3986
Location: Virginia, United States
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:37 pm Reply with quote
What I find perplexing about this series, is why none of the 'transplantee's', for lack of a better word, question the citizenry about how they got there. The escort guards in the beginning were 'knowingly' old hands at this, considering their reactions. The party themselves know parts of their old life, so you would think there would be questions to be asked. Sooner or later the series needs to address either the constant brainwashing or the tamping down of their memories. Right now I have a dim view of the people of this world, for they seem to be in on this.

Choco, why was she even brought into the series. She was clearly spoiler[Haruhiro's girl friend in the previous world. ] A fact that Haruhiro acknowledges. But killing her off precludes any use of her in solving the mysteries of why they are there, and why the people of this world want to keep all of this a secret.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Anthony Gray



Joined: 16 Oct 2017
Posts: 12
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:29 pm Reply with quote
TarsTarkas wrote:
What I find perplexing about this series, is why none of the 'transplantee's', for lack of a better word, question the citizenry about how they got there. The escort guards in the beginning were 'knowingly' old hands at this, considering their reactions. The party themselves know parts of their old life, so you would think there would be questions to be asked. Sooner or later the series needs to address either the constant brainwashing or the tamping down of their memories. Right now I have a dim view of the people of this world, for they seem to be in on this.

Choco, why was she even brought into the series. She was clearly spoiler[Haruhiro's girl friend in the previous world. ] A fact that Haruhiro acknowledges. But killing her off precludes any use of her in solving the mysteries of why they are there, and why the people of this world want to keep all of this a secret.


Choco was never his girlfriend, but definitely the girl he loved.

Volume 3, end of Chapter 12:
"Listen, I... For a long time now...
For as long as I can remember, I've loved you, and only you.
I can't say it, though.
I'm sure I'll go my whole life without ever sayi-"

Though I get what your saying. It seemed weird from the get go that no one seriously cared about solving this underlying mystery. Them not being about to remember is definitely a factor to it. Volumes 6-8(8 being as far as I've read), especially 7, touch on this subject a bit. It's just weird that its taken so long.


Last edited by Anthony Gray on Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HameruIsCool



Joined: 21 Jan 2015
Posts: 34
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:00 am Reply with quote
Is it weird that I just can't get into this series due to how it includes dumb fanservice(Oh look! a sexy witch like in every other JRPG!) while trying to take its serious story seriously?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
myskaros



Joined: 13 Jun 2011
Posts: 529
Location: Vancouver, WA
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:05 am Reply with quote
HameruIsCool wrote:
Is it weird that I just can't get into this series due to how it includes dumb fanservice(Oh look! a sexy witch like in every other JRPG!) while trying to take its serious story seriously?

If you read the book and your takeaway was "oh look a sexy witch," then no, it's not weird that you missed the point entirely.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Stretch2424



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 117
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:11 am Reply with quote
I'm sure somebody has asked this question before, but how many of the novels are covered by the anime? If I want to read the story, but not the parts I've already seen on TV, which novel should I start with?

Thanks for your help.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
michizure



Joined: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 72
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:08 am Reply with quote
Quote:
He doesn't seem to have any romantic feelings for any of the females he knows (or males, for that matter)...

I would say Haruhiro's obsessing over Merry's relationship with Kuzaku suggests that the author, at least, sees some romantic feelings between him and Merry, even if Haruhiro isn't fully aware of it. Merry, in her own reticent way, also seems to return his interest.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Anthony Gray



Joined: 16 Oct 2017
Posts: 12
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Stretch2424 wrote:
I'm sure somebody has asked this question before, but how many of the novels are covered by the anime? If I want to read the story, but not the parts I've already seen on TV, which novel should I start with?

Thanks for your help.


The anime covered the first two volumes of the LN. You might want to start near the end of Volume 2 tho, because the anime omitted the introduction of Soma, the strongest volunteer soldier, and the announcement of him forming his new clan, The Day Breakers, which plays a big part in future volumes. That and Team Renji's fight with the orcs that attack Alterna near the beginning of Volume 2. You can skip this part if you want, but its a pretty cool scene showcasing how badass Team Renji is. Besides those two things, the adaptation was on point.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TarsTarkas



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Posts: 3986
Location: Virginia, United States
PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:35 pm Reply with quote
Anthony Gray wrote:

Choco was never his girlfriend, but definitely the girl he loved.

Volume 3, end of Chapter 12:
"Listen, I... For a long time now...
For as long as I can remember, I've loved you, and only you.
I can't say it, though.
I'm sure I'll go my whole life without ever sayi-"

Though I get what your saying. It seemed weird from the get go that no one seriously cared about solving this underlying mystery. Them not being about to remember is definitely a factor to it. Volumes 6-8(8 being as far as I've read), especially 7, touch on this subject a bit. It's just weird that its taken so long.


Perhaps you have a point there, though, spoiler[they seemed to be together when they departed their old world, but apparently didn't arrive together during the same time period. It would seem to indicate a deeper closeness. But who knows, the flashback scene could have been misleading, but would seem to indicate that they were together in some form, otherwise why have it in the show.]

As to the other stuff, yeah, we are deep into the series now, but even though they know they are not being allowed to remember stuff, but they remember not remembering. And they keep being pinged by knowing words that are not part of this world. I can see the author wanting to keep the mystery going, but he is in danger of making his characters unrealistic, which he is skirting quite close too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BlueAlf



Joined: 02 Jan 2017
Posts: 702
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:01 am Reply with quote
If I'm allowed to say, rather than characters not realizing the gaps in their own memories, I think what's more unrealistic about Grimgar is the number of weirdos Haru and party just seem to meet. I think they almost always get involved with weird people, regardless of whether the story is being serious or not.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Stretch2424



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Posts: 117
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:34 am Reply with quote
Thanks for your help, Anthony.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group