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darkhunter
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:16 am |
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So I've just read the novel Things Fall Apart,and it ended very tragically. The way it end was also done in a satirical way to prove a point. As I'm trying remember some manga I've read that ended very tragically but I can't recall any that were very memorable at this moment. So I'm wondering what manga you've read that has a very tragic ending, in a way to prove a point or preach a lesson. (Remember to use spoiler tag when necessary).
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Kagemusha
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:57 am |
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I didn't really think Things Fall Apart had a nessisarily tragic ending. On a cultural level, the destruction of the tribe was sad, but Okonkwo's fate was neither sad nor fitting, just unfortunate. Anyways, I can't really think of anything right now aside from Saikano. Some people might say Beleivers, but while its ending touched on strong emotions, those weren't so much tragic but sadness mixed with harmony.
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Monumension
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:49 pm |
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It's been a while since I read it, but the one shot Jisatsu Circle had a truly devastating ending. It was somewhat more understandable than the end of the movie (which I still haven't gotten my mind around yet), but I guess it's open for interpretations. Anyway, it's among the few times I've finished a manga I have felt depressed.
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thecactusman17
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:51 pm |
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| darkhunter wrote: | | So I've just read the novel Things Fall Apart,and it ended very tragically. The way it end was also done in a satirical way to prove a point. As I'm trying remember some manga I've read that ended very tragically but I can't recall any that were very memorable at this moment. So I'm wondering what manga you've read that has a very tragic ending, in a way to prove a point or preach a lesson. (Remember to use spoiler tag when necessary). |
Saikano
Chihiro kills humanity in an effort to permanently end human suffering instead of continuing the world war the developed alongside her transformation into the ultimate weapon. Not wanting to live out the rest of her existence alone, she keeps Shuji alive, the last human in existance. It's temporary measure, and we are left knowing that ultimately, she has doomed herself to a life of lonely immortality.
Hints of Asimov? I think so.
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darkhunter
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:15 pm |
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| Kagemusha wrote: | | I didn't really think Things Fall Apart had a nessisarily tragic ending. On a cultural level, the destruction of the tribe was sad, but Okonkwo's fate was neither sad nor fitting, just unfortunate. Anyways, I can't really think of anything right now aside from Saikano. Some people might say Beleivers, but while its ending touched on strong emotions, those weren't so much tragic but sadness mixed with harmony. |
imo Okonkwo was a tragic antagonist from the beginning. Vowing never to be like his weak father, thus he develope a flaw since birth and that in lead him to kill someone that he almost consider almost a son. The real tragedy ending itself was when he kills the messenger but his whole village that was once warlike did nothing as they let the other messenger run away. Even though he might be wrong, he was the only one that really stood up for his culture. His people didn't believe in his view and to him, they themselves are losing bits of their culture in the process. The other tragedy was that he commited suicide and died as a great man that will never achive his greatest dream of holding the highest title in the village, all because he didn't want to be anything like his father. He didn't have to die but there was a meaning to his death. You can say his tragedy was his own making.
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LydiaDianne
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:02 am |
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Well, I'd nominate X/1999 but since it looks like it will NEVER be finished, I guess I can't.
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thecactusman17
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:00 am |
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| darkhunter wrote: | | So I've just read the novel Things Fall Apart,and it ended very tragically. The way it end was also done in a satirical way to prove a point. As I'm trying remember some manga I've read that ended very tragically but I can't recall any that were very memorable at this moment. So I'm wondering what manga you've read that has a very tragic ending, in a way to prove a point or preach a lesson. (Remember to use spoiler tag when necessary). |
You know what a real tragic ending is? Ranma 1/2 closing more than a decade and a half after it was released in Japan, and more than two years after fan translations finished the whole thing.
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Kagemusha
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:48 pm |
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| thecactusman17 wrote: | | darkhunter wrote: | | So I've just read the novel Things Fall Apart,and it ended very tragically. The way it end was also done in a satirical way to prove a point. As I'm trying remember some manga I've read that ended very tragically but I can't recall any that were very memorable at this moment. So I'm wondering what manga you've read that has a very tragic ending, in a way to prove a point or preach a lesson. (Remember to use spoiler tag when necessary). |
You know what a real tragic ending is? Ranma 1/2 closing more than a decade and a half after it was released in Japan, and more than two years after fan translations finished the whole thing. |
Like the ending had any big suprises...
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Angelcake
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:47 pm |
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What immediately comes to mind.....for me, anyway......is the end of Johji Manabe's Outlanders
The simple reason being that in the end, almost all of the main characters die a horrible and emotional death.
For more retro manga, I'd have to say the end of Princess Knight by Osamu Tezuka. In the end, the king and queen are executed, as well as Sapphire's little angel friend Choppy.
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