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Soul_Punisher



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 11:45 am Reply with quote
Devil May Care Much?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 1:37 pm Reply with quote
I really enjoyed the show, but I agree that the cliffhanger is way too drastic. I can't even begin to imagine where they plan to pick things up in season 2.
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Meh, second season it's already done, this is one of those cute "It's done but we split it in 2" BSs Netflix likes doing lately, in the Evanescence video there is even scenes of Dante using spoiler[Ebony and Ivory].

The series has many logical problems, for example: the idea of a random guy with a bunny mask defeating the Swiss Guard its laugteagle, USA government, apparently, has no idea of demons existing even though there are whole organizations dedicated at fighting them.

The White Rabbit it's the perfect example of an smart character written by a not-so-smart person, the scene where he gets saved by an explosion he didn't know about yet acts as he did comes to mind.

Lady... I watched it in spanish, she doesn't swear so much on it so I didn't care, she was more or less as I was expecting, I am disappointed that she didn't use more gadgets though.

Dante... he acts more than Nero than Dante, he is quite nerfed power wise and his serious side it's never explored, the scene of him getting a "D" in Dance-Dance Revolution made me laugh though.

He is... acceptable as a younger Dante, my opinion on him will variete depending in his reaction to Vergil being alive.

Anyways, this thing its a 6/10 entertaining series with a 1/10 "We are USA and we are the main character of the world" ending.

As a side note: if you wanna know why so many fans are mad at the idea of humanizing demons:

The core message of DMC its the superiority of the human heart over over Demonic power, what makes Dante strong it's not his demon blood, but his human heart.

Whole name of the series itself its a reference at Demons not being able to cry, but Dante can, the Devil who may Cry is Dante himself.

But if demons also have a heart... then there is no message outside of "Bad things are bad, avoid doing bad things" and you feel like the series is treating you like an idiot who can't take a hint.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 8:06 pm Reply with quote
Minos_Kurumada wrote:
Meh, second season it's already done, this is one of those cute "It's done but we split it in 2" BSs Netflix likes doing lately, in the Evanescence video there is even scenes of Dante using spoiler[Ebony and Ivory].

Anyways, this thing its a 6/10 entertaining series with a 1/10 "We are USA and we are the main character of the world" ending.

As a side note: if you wanna know why so many fans are mad at the idea of humanizing demons:

The core message of DMC its the superiority of the human heart over over Demonic power, what makes Dante strong it's not his demon blood, but his human heart.

Whole name of the series itself its a reference at Demons not being able to cry, but Dante can, the Devil who may Cry is Dante himself.

But if demons also have a heart... then there is no message outside of "Bad things are bad, avoid doing bad things" and you feel like the series is treating you like an idiot who can't take a hint.


I recall seeing a lot of complaints from fans about the writing, especially on how heavy handed the social-political commentary was and the theme being too different from the games (the whole superiority of human heart/caring of the games Vs the oppressive corruption of humans per the series).

That said, they do admit one silver lining is that the Netflix series might end up drawing in more casual fans to get the games. Apparently the viewing numbers are very very good, and with the games getting an increase in sales it sends a clear message to Capcom that there's still demand for more DMC games.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 10:30 pm Reply with quote
I'm happy if this has brought more awareness to the games but as an actual adaption of Devil May Cry I think it's...severely lacking.
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Richard Eisenbeis
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 11:24 pm Reply with quote
Minos_Kurumada wrote:

The core message of DMC its the superiority of the human heart over over Demonic power, what makes Dante strong it's not his demon blood, but his human heart.


100% agree on this.

Minos_Kurumada wrote:

Whole name of the series itself its a reference at Demons not being able to cry, but Dante can, the Devil who may Cry is Dante himself.

But if demons also have a heart... then there is no message outside of "Bad things are bad, avoid doing bad things" and you feel like the series is treating you like an idiot who can't take a hint.


This is where I start to disagree. At least in the first game, "The Devil Who May Cry" (as you so eloquently put it) is not Dante, it's Trish. Unlike Dante, she is 100% demon, created by Mundus. However, at the end of the first game, she cries--in doing so showing that even demons can develop human hearts.

Because of this, I am okay with the idea that other demons could also do the same--even up-to-and-including an entire oppressed class of demons. However, I can also understand how it might be a bridge too far for some.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 11:29 pm Reply with quote
Predictable comments.

It really does seem like even when Netflix knocks it out of the park, the consensus is that they aren't allowed to knock it out of the park, so reality SHALL be denied.
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OpenYourEels4TheNextFeels



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 11:44 pm Reply with quote
As "Pluto" demonstrated, you can certainly make an anime that reimagines a classic media property as an allegory/commentary on the US war on terror and have it be good. I just don't feel the source material of Devil May Cry is conducive to that reimagining in the same way Astro Boy's "The Greatest Robot on Earth" storyline was.

Also dislike the changes they made to Lady writing-wise (I am neutral on the drastic outfit change).
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 12:29 am Reply with quote
Richard Eisenbeis wrote:
Minos_Kurumada wrote:

The core message of DMC its the superiority of the human heart over over Demonic power, what makes Dante strong it's not his demon blood, but his human heart.


100% agree on this.

Minos_Kurumada wrote:

Whole name of the series itself its a reference at Demons not being able to cry, but Dante can, the Devil who may Cry is Dante himself.

But if demons also have a heart... then there is no message outside of "Bad things are bad, avoid doing bad things" and you feel like the series is treating you like an idiot who can't take a hint.




This is where I start to disagree. At least in the first game, "The Devil Who May Cry" (as you so eloquently put it) is not Dante, it's Trish. Unlike Dante, she is 100% demon, created by Mundus. However, at the end of the first game, she cries--in doing so showing that even demons can develop human hearts.

Because of this, I am okay with the idea that other demons could also do the same--even up-to-and-including an entire oppressed class of demons. However, I can also understand how it might be a bridge too far for some.


Nop, the origin of the name "Devil May Cry" comes from this conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQTu570k0c

After this, the final cutscene shows Dante setting the "Devil May Cry" sign out of his office.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 1:47 am Reply with quote
Minos_Kurumada wrote:

Nop, the origin of the name "Devil May Cry" comes from this conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQTu570k0c

After this, the final cutscene shows Dante setting the "Devil May Cry" sign out of his office.


Hold on there chief, you originally said:

Minos_Kurumada wrote:

Whole name of the series itself its a reference at Demons not being able to cry, but Dante can, the Devil who may Cry is Dante himself.


So I responded talking about the thematic importance of the series name as it pertains to the first game (NOT the origin of the name of the bussiness inside the fictional world of the games that's not revealed until the third game). The whole point thematically of the first Devil May Cry game is that love conquers all--that even a demon can feel love. The proof that Trish's love is real not a trick is that "devils never cry." So if Trish can cry, she must be human in the most important way possible: her heart.

https://youtu.be/ZSi5_pxauG0?si=xdY67IaXsjNliV4q&t=93

Thus my point stands: In the very first Devil May Cry game we have precident for demons who have hearts. And if Trish can do it, who's to say other deamons can't/haven't. (I mean, if I were to take a guess, Sparda had a heart, too, if he loved Eva, I mean.)
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 4:34 am Reply with quote
zztop wrote:
I recall seeing a lot of complaints from fans about the writing, especially on how heavy handed the social-political commentary was and the theme being too different from the games (the whole superiority of human heart/caring of the games Vs the oppressive corruption of humans per the series).


I think people are just tired of the modern American writing phenomenon of trying to humanize inherently evil races, let alone portray them as the true victims in the world and it's the humans who are wrong for not wanting to be eaten. Rings of Power and a few other fantasy media did the same thing with Orcs as well. I don't know if Netflix did the same thing with vampires in Castlevania as I dipped out of that show pretty quickly. I feel the existence of one or two outliers does not disprove the rule and if anything usually showcases the necessity when even one of their own views their own race as so vile and needing to be destroyed or sealed off from everyone else like Sparda did who even sealed himself away as he feared his own power would be used for evil.

Also narrative wise it just snowballs into an Order 66 situation which is where it turns out so many Jedi ended up surviving the purge as more media comes out you realize just how ineffective and pointless it was and roll your eyes every time you see another story about a Jedi who managed to survive the purge. Suddenly when you have so many demons or whatever who are good or neutral then the existence of a good demon loses it's entire impact. Suddenly Sparda being the one demon who grew a heart makes him seem less unique or interesting when you try to say demons inherently are no different than humans and the evil ones like Mundus are the real outliers.

It also doesn't help when your commentary is just ineffective. They framed human soldiers invading hell and killing demons while taking selfies as a bad thing when it's probably the most badass thing out there that would make Doomguy proud. They did that one skateboard riding hotdog meme of trying to go "This is bad, actually" Let alone the unfortunate implications of trying to say demons are Muslims or something which is probably best not to think about too hard.

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That said, they do admit one silver lining is that the Netflix series might end up drawing in more casual fans to get the games. Apparently the viewing numbers are very very good, and with the games getting an increase in sales it sends a clear message to Capcom that there's still demand for more DMC games.


At least until Capcom decided to model any future DMC games after the Netflix show. Laughing
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The dumbest things are the way the plot ruined Lady's origin and character. She was made into some crappy R rated joke of a sailor mouth punk ass with 0 personality. Every F word felt so forced and unnatural. Cursing isn't dialogue, it's lazy writing. Look at garbage like Sausage Party type movies. Every other word is a curse in what could've been a funnier movie.

Demon's that were good and had kids was stupid.

Rest was fine but it could've been a lot better.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 5:40 am Reply with quote
TsarPlatinum wrote:


I think people are just tired of the modern American writing phenomenon of trying to humanize inherently evil races, let alone portray them as the true victims in the world and it's the humans who are wrong for not wanting to be eaten. Rings of Power and a few other fantasy media did the same thing with Orcs as well. I don't know if Netflix did the same thing with vampires in Castlevania as I dipped out of that show pretty quickly. I feel the existence of one or two outliers does not disprove the rule and if anything usually showcases the necessity when even one of their own views their own race as so vile and needing to be destroyed or sealed off from everyone else like Sparda did who even sealed himself away as he feared his own power would be used for evil.

Also narrative wise it just snowballs into an Order 66 situation which is where it turns out so many Jedi ended up surviving the purge as more media comes out you realize just how ineffective and pointless it was and roll your eyes every time you see another story about a Jedi who managed to survive the purge. Suddenly when you have so many demons or whatever who are good or neutral then the existence of a good demon loses it's entire impact. Suddenly Sparda being the one demon who grew a heart makes him seem less unique or interesting when you try to say demons inherently are no different than humans and the evil ones like Mundus are the real outliers.




What a wierd tangent with the star wars part. Your point about outliers isn't disproven by there being survivors to order 66. Less than 1% of all jedi survived order 66, those that survived are more significant (stronger, more important, etc.) than the dead and fiction is all about spotlighting the exceptions.

As for the rest, it's not really a modern or American thing. Something that stood out to me very quickly when I started reading manga is how often demonic characters are the good guys (even if they're the one good demon) while angelic characters are the bad guys. Tokyo ghoul comes to mind. Ghouls literally eat people but the human hunters are sometimes portrayed as worse. I also remember the orcs in Dungeon meshi and the argument with Marcille. This is a common trope even in the east
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 6:30 am Reply with quote
Shankar said that he based it on parts from the Devil May Cry 3 manga but there are parts that feel exaggerated. Mary in this version is supposed to be a professional unlike in the game yet swears even more than Ninja Theory's take on Dante. Dante also seems like a charcter Shankar hates considering he rarely feels like a protagonist considering how he is captured in episode 2, how half of his face explodes or how the government seals without any reason. With this treatment it's insane this is supposed to be a comingofage story considering Dante has nobody to protect at all especially since the closest to an ally dies. It was enjoyable but it still has some cringe parts that don't feel like the games.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2025 6:56 am Reply with quote
People need to realize that Adi Shankar is a hack. He doesn't even make adaptations, he just uses existing IPs as vessels for his own stories, and calling them a step down from the source material would be generous.

There are also clear signs that he's a scumbag who doesn't deserve a fraction of the success he's had (e.g., praised Asmongold, forced the director of the short film that put him on the map to pay for it despite being its producer, remarks indicating he might be emulating Weinstein).
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