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Trilsk
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:28 am |
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I just finished episodes 1-26 of WHR. All I can say is "WOW" it's one of the best I've seen in a long time. Do you think they might do more episodes? I know about the live action on Sci-Fi (They better do Robin right or it's death) and how it's gonna air on Adult Swim. Episodes 27 and beyond would really hit the spot though.
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HeeroYuy135
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:29 pm |
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WHR looks very promising, and I wouldn't be suprised it they went for a another two years or so...this is Bandai's new franchise you know...they needed something because Gundam is slowly dying out...and I love it!!!
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one3rd
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:44 pm |
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| Trilsk wrote: | | Do you think they might do more episodes? |
Does this really need to be asked about every single series? And it has (almost) always been answered no, no, no, and no.
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king_micah
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 12:10 am |
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I think a second season would belittle the ending. WHR has it's main plot resolved at its end, and leaves one notable question, What happened to Robin and Amon?
[EDIT - Spoiler tags fixed.. -C]
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Macross3000
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:04 am |
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Maybe they'll release a movie to explain what happens at the end of the TV series.
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Nagisa
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:25 am |
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| one3rd wrote: | | Does this really need to be asked about every single series? And it has (almost) always been answered no, no, no, and no. |
I have to agree with this. I mean, I've heard requests now for second seasons of Hellsing, Berserk, Witch Hunter Robin, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Fruits Basket, Evangelion, Big O, Rurouni Kenshin, Outlaw Star, X (and how in the hell does that even remotely work, may I ask?), I think I remember hearing people cry out for new episodes of Great Teacher Onizuka, Gundam SEED, Full Metal Panic!, Noir, Wolf's Rain...good God.
I understand you people who call for these things are fans, and as such you love the shows enough to want them to continue. But demanding new seasons can also be a bit disrespectful, i.e. "I don't like this ending, go back and make me one I like!" And a lot of these franchises are far too old for sequel material to even really be an option. Hell, I'd go so far as to say if a series ended in Japan more than a year and a half ago, and there's been no word about continuation, don't even bother bringing it up. It's a near certainty that it won't happen.
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Macross3000
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 1:31 am |
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Well...Great Teacher Onizuka really didn't end or resolve anything that was developing over the series span. He basically ups and leaves... kinda like a gpsy or wanderer type. I suppose it fits his biker image, but he could've at least said goodbye and told that poor female teacher to forget about him and move on! LOL
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ZahmiraV
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:58 pm |
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Personally, I think WHR is quite happy where it is. There's nothing wrong with ending a series and leaving the viewer with a few questions.
This allows the viewer to actually think about the show, instead of watching it mindlessly. We can discuss what we think happened, or what the meaning of leaving the show like that was, etc.
Beside, if the live action WHR does happen, then there you go! More WHR!
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Rahxephon91
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:21 pm |
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Even though I have yet to see the whole show. I think its the kind of show that dosent need another season. From what I have heard its better of the way it is. The Ending lets you think about it. Why cheapen that
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HeeroYuy135
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:33 pm |
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| Rahxephon91 wrote: | | Even though I have yet to see the whole show. I think its the kind of show that dosent need another season. From what I have heard its better of the way it is. The Ending lets you think about it. Why cheapen that |
Think of WHR as "The Moon is Down" by John Steinbeck... use your imagination to fill in the blanks. Ever wanted to know what happened to Robin and Amon? It's just another blank to fill in...
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Daimonwrath
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:15 am |
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| Nagisa wrote: | | one3rd wrote: | | Does this really need to be asked about every single series? And it has (almost) always been answered no, no, no, and no. |
I have to agree with this. I mean, I've heard requests now for second seasons of Hellsing, Berserk, Witch Hunter Robin, Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Fruits Basket, Evangelion, Big O, Rurouni Kenshin, Outlaw Star, X (and how in the hell does that even remotely work, may I ask?), I think I remember hearing people cry out for new episodes of Great Teacher Onizuka, Gundam SEED, Full Metal Panic!, Noir, Wolf's Rain...good God.
I understand you people who call for these things are fans, and as such you love the shows enough to want them to continue. But demanding new seasons can also be a bit disrespectful, i.e. "I don't like this ending, go back and make me one I like!" And a lot of these franchises are far too old for sequel material to even really be an option. Hell, I'd go so far as to say if a series ended in Japan more than a year and a half ago, and there's been no word about continuation, don't even bother bringing it up. It's a near certainty that it won't happen. |
Normally I agree with your viewpoints Nagisa, however:
"I don't like this ending, go back and make me one I like!"
coming from fans you have named only one of many reasons for wanting a continuing series. The term "cliffhanger" is an anime format many anime writers tend to do for one reason or another.
Also hollywood has been known to ressurrect old titles and make them into sequels or continue it (Star Wars franchise) after a long hiatus. So why can't that happen for anime? I noticed you said near certainty but to say that it "wont" happen is truly out of the question for anything. That of course being that the writer/creator himself quotes that there will be no continuation in the genre.
Demanding a new season is quite alright with me. The fans also inform the community that one is wanted. With enough raving things can turn around quick.
D.W.
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Nagisa
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:41 am |
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| Daimonwrath wrote: | | Normally I agree with your viewpoints Nagisa, however:
"I don't like this ending, go back and make me one I like!"
coming from fans you have named only one of many reasons for wanting a continuing series. The term "cliffhanger" is an anime format many anime writers tend to do for one reason or another. |
I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand what is being said here.
| Daimonwrath wrote: | | Also hollywood has been known to ressurrect old titles and make them into sequels or continue it (Star Wars franchise) after a long hiatus. So why can't that happen for anime? I noticed you said near certainty but to say that it "wont" happen is truly out of the question for anything. That of course being that the writer/creator himself quotes that there will be no continuation in the genre. |
For a series to be picked back up after a long hiatus, it has to have established itself as having genuine staying power with mass-market audiences. Star Wars has done this. Macross has done this. Trigun has not done this. Neither has Outlaw Star, or Witch Hunter Robin, or Fruits Basket, or Noir. They're excellent series, yes. But they lack the timelessness and the mass-market longevity to be worth coming back to. Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion are possibilities, but the way they ended leaves no credible room for sequels, and their respective creative minds have pretty much personally closed the book on them.
A series that is truly great enough to be revisited is rare. It's rare in Hollywood, it's rarer in the worldwide niche market that is anime.
| Daimonwrath wrote: | | Demanding a new season is quite alright with me. The fans also inform the community that one is wanted. With enough raving things can turn around quick. |
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disagree here. As I believe Zac has said once before, big companies steer clear of message boards. Spamming ANN with twelve threads about how badly people want to see a Cowboy Bebop sequel is only going to fall on deaf ears. Online petitions and e-mail are the same way. Even letter writing isn't going to accomplish much in this situation. Unless a show or a film has done successful enough in the ratings or has grossed enough in the box office, chances of a continuation/prequel/spinoff are slim. And if a show or film is successful, there's no guarantee even then that the creative/production team will allow more to be made.
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Dilandau
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 7:00 am |
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I agree with Nagisa in the fact that a second season to any of these series are very unlikely. They have been ended.
BUT, I don't think that rules out the possibility of something else. More movies and OVA's are always possible. Why not a prequel (not necessarily a season): Eva 1st impact, Cowboy Bebop would also work. Take Armitage Dual-Matrix as an example. It was eons dead, and I don't think it was as 'timeless' as you suggest it would need to be (there is an English language school attached to my Uni with tons of Japanese students. I haven't met one yet that even heard of Armitage).
Cowboy Bebop has an 'alternate/prequel' manga series called 'Shooting Star(s)'.
There alway remains the possibility, but it is probably wisest to save your breath.
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Nagisa
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:16 pm |
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| Dilandau wrote: | | Take Armitage Dual-Matrix as an example. It was eons dead, and I don't think it was as 'timeless' as you suggest it would need to be (there is an English language school attached to my Uni with tons of Japanese students. I haven't met one yet that even heard of Armitage). |
There are always exceptions to every rule. I didn't mean for my statements concerning "never getting sequels" or titles "having to be timeless" to be as absolute as they probably ended up sounding, I merely intended to point out that such are the majority cases. Sorry about that.
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