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Dessa
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I've seen Wreck-It Ralph as well, and I think those are probably the top 3 contenders. I'm hoping for RotG as well, I think it was better animated and has a bit tighter of a story than Brave or Wreck-It Ralph. |
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Sacred Blood
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Touche. Guess i really have been lazy . Trustilotous puts it in better words than me and like him, i never really cared for movies i suppose. |
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BonusStage
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i know that feeling. no movie this year has captured my interest, but I know about 10 anime movies I liked or have interest in.
Television is pretty bad though...... what makes you call this the Golden Age? All I hear is people talking bout stuff like Walking Dead or Game of Thrones which is definitely not golden age material. What obscure shows did you have in mind? |
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enurtsol
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Out of the list, dunno why Hotel Transylvania is there. At best it could be said about it is it's entertaining, but it doesn't really have much ambition. Maybe because of the Genndy Tartakovsky name?
Well, anime has stuff too like SAO, et al, so................ (And The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger was awesome, almost as good as Jack Nicholson's.)
Guess that's understandable; if it's not for you, it's just not for you. But you realize that also makes you not a fair judge of the landscape, right? Like those kiddies who only watched DBZ and thought they knew everything about anime. Some of those films, like Skyfall, are not only good but something ya don't see much even in anime. Haven't seen Lincoln yet, but apparently it has leading 7 nominations. |
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Bonham
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You're really not familiar with how people look to series like Twin Peaks and The Sopranos as harbingers for a different kind of serialized television? A lot of critical discussion generally supports this notion, and even a quick Google search points to this. The kind of sustained, novel-like quality to many of the television shows produced in the past decade on cable like HBO and AMC is a very noticeable move away from network television. The Wire, Deadwood, Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Boardwalk Empire, HBO's miniseries, etc. These series may have limited viewership compared to far more popular television series -- whether networks sitcoms of the present or past, in television's initial "golden age" -- but that doesn't really say anything about their quality. In fact, there is a greater argument for television no longer being inferior to film. This subject is really off-topic, and if you really don't believe those series are that great/haven't seen them/think they're not different than what came in the 1940s to 1980s, there's nothing I can do. I'm just frustrated when people seem resistant to the idea that a medium or industry is inherently bad without much knowledge of it. |
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naninanino
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Ugh... no offence to western animation, but this list is horrible. All 3D family comedies. I'm starting to lose faith here.
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TitanXL
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Evangelion is an obvious strong contender. Wolf Children as well. Other movies I enjoyed were .hack, Biohazard/Resident Evil Damnation the annual Detective Conan and usual annual shounen movies as well. Tibet Inu Monogatari wasn't bad either. Non-anime had the Fourze send-off movie which was fun and sad to see the cast go. Stuff I haven't seen yet but look interesting are Gothicmade, Nerawareta Gakuen, and One Piece Z. As for the argument. Eh, only been to the movies a few times this year. Against my will, usually with family or other people. Nothing really "wow'd" me. I can't really get into these Disney/Dreamworks things anymore at my age, not since I was a kid in the 90s anyway. I find the Japanese moves offer more in their arsenal every year. Not to mention as PurpleWarrior13 said, I definitely favor hand-drawn animation as well. Unless it has merit like Biohazard since the game is CG, and it uses a more realistic style. |
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enurtsol
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Just because they're so-called "3D family comedies" doesn't mean they can't be good; just as moe anime doesn't automatically mean bad. Although I agree with you that there's definitely need to be more variety, just as we don't want mostly moe or high school hijinks anime.
You should really go watch some when not "against your will." Just as we encourage people in our club to try out different anime, with their own volition and open mind, even if there's just a hint of something that interests them. They may like it or they may not, but at least they did it on their own initiative. We don't force videos on people when they're resisting because having it forced on you already sets up a bad atmosphere around the show before it even starts playing. And just as I mentioned above, because they're family-fare films doesn't mean they can't be good. Our club is perfectly fine watching Pokemon or magical girl films and other so-called children's anime. Can be good or can be bad, but the fun is in the journey of watching 'em. We all have a kid in us no matter the age. Generally though definitely needs more variety in NA animation films, especially disconcerting when it's existing side-by-side with NA live-action industries which have great variety, even more so than anime. |
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Key
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I'm going to provide an alternate view to the typical "trash the NA-produced movies" dribble here.
Of the nominated movies, I have seen both Brave and Wreck-It-Ralph (which, BTW, is aimed at anyone who grew up playing arcade games) and thought both were Excellent efforts that were highly entertaining. I did see The Secret World of Arriety, and while I thought it was Very Good, I was hardly blown away by it and was underwhelmed by its artistry and technical merits. I wouldn't pick it over either of its American counterparts for any award. Of the list, Castle Transylvania seems the most questionable choice, as critical reviews on that one were pretty weak. |
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marcos torres toledo
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I find myself watching Anime more and finding more interesting than USA animated and live action of late even their children stuff is more interesting a may I say it more adult. Though Anime 18 is more differcult to find these days and Anime in general to rent than years before a great shame. I hope but I am not counting on it that this improve and we go back to the good old days and I can rent it again I looking forward to seeing Starship Troopers Invasion. The USA still thinks it is the World and seems indifferent or whats to isolate itself from it.
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revolutionotaku
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Perhaps there hasn't been any anime nominated for any awards show in the United States because of Hayao Miyazaki not excepting the oscar for "Spirited Away" in person as an act of protest against the Iraq War.
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-07-25/miyazaki-acknowledges-missing-oscars-due-to-iraq-war |
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Dessa
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Uh... no. Neither Brave, Wreck-It Ralph, nor Rise of the Guardians are comedies. Yes, they include comedic elements, but Wreck-It Ralph is the closest to being a comedy, and it's not. All three have dramatic stories, with RotG probably being the darkest. There's funny quips, yes, but in no way, shape, or form could it be confused for a comedy. And yeah, I'll agree with Key. Arietty was decent, but nothing to be blown away by. I could see it on the list, but it wouldn't win. Brave, Wreck-It Ralph, and RotG are much stronger. |
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Hagaren Viper
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I honestly haven't seen Arriety and Poppy Hill, and while it's a shame that they didn't get nominated I'd still be likely be rooting for WiR. Captured my heart more than any media on both sides of the pond.
Im surprised by Frankenweenie and Hotel though...mostly because I never heard ANY feedback on those, good or bad. Were they notable at all? |
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RestLessone
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It was mentioned earlier, but Hotel may have been pushed along because Genndy Tartakovsky's name was attached. Though I haven't seen it, I have heard it was fairly average. Which is a miracle in and of itself; to put it into perspective, Tartakovsky was the movie's sixth director. Personally, ParaNorman would have been a better nominee. Frankenweenie got a 89% on RT and it's a Tim Burton film. I've been meaning to see it eventually, as I adore the old 80's short it is based on. Haven't heard anyone talk about it, though. |
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lostrune
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Are these the same children's anime where you have pedophiles, lesbian couples, and on screen blood, death, and murder? Seems like Japanese kids anime would be aimed at a teenage or adult audiences here. Especially those in the One Piece range of violence and sexual content. I' guessing those offer more interest to older audiences than a family comedy movie.
Live-action has more vairety than animation? Quite a bold claim there given you don't exactly see those Pokemon or magical girl films coming out in live-action regularly even in Japan |
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