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Zac
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I'm curious, do you care about anything in media other than cute anime girls? |
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gatotsu911
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The "controversy" over that T-rated visual novel release is pretty absurd when you consider the fact that VN developers release "cleaned up" versions of their games to the Japanese market all the time. But this time it's different, because it's being altered for an American release, which means censorship OMG someone call the First Amendment quick!!!1!!1!!
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Beatdigga
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Are the censored versions the only option? No? Then your argument has no grounds. This isn't about porn, it's about choices. If you want to give people the option to choose whether or not to have H-scenes, that would be great! If you want to release an edited and an unedited version concurrently, that's good too. But to say "No, we will not give an uncensored version to fans of this niche legally"? When that happens to the anime fandom, more often than not, fans were obtaining the product illegally. You are making choices for the consumer, a niche consumer, saying "No, you're not allowed to see the original because we deem that you can't." This doesn't end well. |
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Chagen46
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They didn't have much of a choice...blame Steam and good old 'MURRICAN hatred of sexual themes and the like. Feel those good 'ol 'MURRICAN values of sex-shunning and violence-loving!
(and hell, I love ultraviolence) |
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Beatdigga
Posts: 4389 Location: New York |
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Whoever you do blame for this, and I don't know who to blame, so I won't blame anyone, it won't end well for their sales.
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CrownKlown
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At the end of the day if XV is half as good as it looks, and better than 13 who cares if its an all male cast or all female cast.
Although I am curious where did this ho/les yay trend come from. I mean its impossible to have a game now where characters can be friends. Relationships that would normally be seen as best friends or non blood related family automatically get people thinking they most really be secretly in love with each other. I mean I am fine if people want fanfic with the XV guys, but the fact that we can't just see it as group of bros and people right away bring Fujoshi or BL is kind of getting irritating. Good no that brings up bad memories of Vesperia. |
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Beatdigga
Posts: 4389 Location: New York |
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Generally the "Bros" group comes from rather masculine portrayals of characters, like the leads in Gears of War for example. FF XV's staff can't really pull off manliness the same way a gruff dude in body armor armed with a rifle that has a chainsaw attached to it does.
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RedTail
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I prefer the lock-on mechanic in RayForce (Layer Section) over Kamui's version of it. Still, it's a really fun game, and I'll be happy to finally purchase a legit copy now that it's easily accessible. Looking forward to playing Reflex and Alltynex Second for the first time too.
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Key Lime Pie
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What have cute anime girls done to you? Curious to find that one out. |
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Rahxephon91
 Posts: 1859 Location: Park Forest IL. |
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Probably not made him dislike his favorite game series just because one installment has them.
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RyanSaotome
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Well some of my favorite anime don't really focus on them (Fate/Zero, One Piece, Code Geass, Fullmetal Alchemist), I just don't like watching or playing stuff thats obviously not aimed at my demographic. A game focusing on fujoshi pandering designs and "Cool guys doing cool things" isn't really something I'm interested in. Its no different from how some people, like yourself, don't like cute girls doing cute things... different strokes for different folks. In other media, cute girls are pretty important though. All of my favorite games of the last couple years other than Skyrim have all been heavily focused around cute girls (Fire Emblem Awakening, Tales of Graces, Atelier Meruru, Neptunia Victory, Project Diva Extend, Final Fantasy XIII-2, etc), and American video games/live action doesn't really interest me much since the American style of story telling and character design isn't very engaging. |
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Rahxephon91
Posts: 1859 Location: Park Forest IL. |
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This game is not "fujoshi"pandering.
This is a Final Fantasy game. A mainline Final Fantasy game. One with Tetsuya Nomura character designs. Meaning, everyone will look pretty. Meaning characters will dress and do stuff to be cool. You apparently have no problem with XIII or XIII-2. Why? So because it's like every other FF, but this time with a male cast. That means it's aimed solely at women? Fine, I guess you can just ignore what the stories subject matter could be. I mean it's not like it could be a growing up story about these male friends and what not. No, because these jrpgs never do that. No they couldn't be making a story that appeals to teenage boys who could relate to such a thing and who like Naruto. Just because as a byproduct of his attractive designs and the series popularity, a certain fandom will takes it and run in a direction with it dosen't mean that's what it's all about. I won't lie and say that they don't want to encourage it. Sure, from Gundam to even Dyansty Warriors, I'm sure the owners of these brands don't mind it because hell these people will buy merchandise. You say you like Full Metal Alchemist, a franchisee that probably has those kind of fans hoping Ed is'nt short in a certain place and writing things to tell you about what Ed does to them or his brother. But I sure hope that fandom didn't effect FMA for you. So no, I don't see how this game is not aimed at anything other than Final Fantasy fans. |
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RyanSaotome
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Honestly, I have more issue with it NOT being like every other FF by turning it into an action game more than the fujoshi thing, but I felt that was a dead horse to bring up. The all male characters are basically just the final nail in the coffin and I'll certainly not be buying this game after owning every non MMO mainline game in the series before this. |
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Key Lime Pie
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Totally agree with you, man. Everyone has an eye for their own eye, so what makes them happy to them is what that is. Meanwhile, this is not to say I'm one-sided in my taste, I actually am all for diversity. I like cute girls doing cute things and badass guys doing badass things to an equal extent, probably a little more to the former's side though. I'm also with you on the whole gaming background you have put forward. I'm not such a hardcore gamer so to speak, but a lot of those you mentioned actually make a reasonable profit because of their "cute girls" they put in. And like you, I'm not so big on American styles myself even though it's rather un-American of me to say, it's just who I am, can't control it. However, I'll still be open to several American styles of things in certain circumstances. One thing is, Visual Novels completely changed my outlook on gaming, the storytelling this medium has to offer can be life-changing depending on who you are. To me, it sure did deliver. By the way, I've seen your face on other sites, nice to see you here :] |
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Rahxephon91
Posts: 1859 Location: Park Forest IL. |
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Being a different battle system than the previous FF games is the most FF thing.
Basically since 4 the FF games have even gotten more real timey, with FFXIII being even more about timing than past games. You're buying Lightning Returns, which while not being an action game is coming pretty close. If it's anything like KH, it will be pretty easy no matter what. It won't be a Devil May Cry or anything and they even said they will have command rpg elements. And most importantly, you've played Tales of Graces. An action rpg. So whats the problem here? This game dosen't have Pascal? And I can't buy "it's un FF" because that dosen't mean much when it comes to battle systems. It really just sounds like "oh no girls" no buy. Which, fine I guess. I mean would you like FMA without Whinry? Fate Zero without Saber, a character you said that if Type Moon dosen't use, you won't buy? |
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