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Kaioshin_Sama
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Fanboyism, lack of imagination, and unwillingness to try more than jut the most bleeding edge hyped up anime is the one reason I can come up with as to why so many people think SHAFT anime are utter genius. The fact that you have some guy in this thread claiming that Monogatari has more character development than all other anime combined and how other anime are just generic next to it shows how much people know what they're talking about and claiming and where their mindset is at. To me the whole SHAFT Style appeals to a very specific mindset and that's the attitude of the kind of fan that wants to feel they are watching something experimental, deep, clever, thought provoking and unique that they can then use to lord their tastes over others without actually having to watch something about material and subject that's off the beaten path in terms of otaku tropes that they're familiar with and can comprehend easily. To achieve this appeal they take harem material like Nisekoi and Monogatari and try to dress it up a whole lot with wacky camera angles, cryptic/bizarre imagery and dialogue delivery that's used for scenes that are actually very simplistic in everything other than how they're portrayed, and then keep everything else minimalist so as to invoke an artsy feel. At the end of the day though the general simplicity of it all and the fact that they still largely target the typical otaku audiences and their sensibilities and needs comes through at least to me and makes their shows save perhaps Madoka Magica nothing special in the long run. All the fanservice wanking in their shows doesn't really help either nor the directors admitted attitude of really just wanting to make money and keep costs down on their productions, taking an approach more like a businessman as opposed to the artiste people seem to think he is. |
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Rederoin
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That would imply it was shafts choice to animate another season of Nisekoi, which is not correct. |
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dtm42
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Ah, it is correct. SHAFT is a private for-hire company, it doesn't have to work on Nisekoi. It could instead be finishing Kizumonogatari which - when released - will be far more popular and profitable. |
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IchigoKurosakiHollowfi
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What a *shock*
No, seriously, saw this coming. xD I see people are still upsit about SHAFT. =o I was too, but I got over it. Not like we can do anything about it anyways. lmao. I honestly got tired of the 'filler' ness of the manga, so not really looking forward to season 2. I want it to end soon tbh. :3 |
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Chiibi
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F*CK I'M SO HAPPY!!!!
It is a lot classier than many harem series. There really is not a lot of fanservice, no ridiculous body proportions, no tentacle rape, no fetishes of any kind, really, no panty shots, no lesbians, no "I'm gonna attempt to rape you", and is able to use comedy in a more tasteful way. When it is from the girls' points of view, it almost comes across as 'shoujo-like'. And it's not like an anime-watcher only would know this but I'm well into chapter 100 of the manga and spoiler[The story that links all the cast together is actually well-thought out and somewhat interesting.] It CAN be frustrating because there are a lot of secrets and you want to know them badly but Naoshi Komi still makes the "filler" so entertaining that if he wanted to go on for 500 chapters, that would be just fine with me. tl;dr: Nisekoi is a very fun, clean, light-hearted romantic comedy that both guys and girls find enjoyable because nobody feels alienated by its content. |
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dtm42
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Well, nobody but me apparently. I don't like unfunny humour, stupid characters or boring premises. Guess I'm one in seven-point-two billion. |
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Shay Guy
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That's not going off the rails, that's spinning its wheels. Which Komi seems willing to do as long as the volumes keep selling in the hundreds of thousands. And I think he realizes he's doing it, given the latter making a joke about it being yet another "Claude's shady new drug" story. If nothing else, Nisekoi's self-aware. I mean, I'd rather have a dozen volumes of Double Arts, no question, but you gotta pay the bills. Though I'm at a loss to explain why SHAFT is bothering with another season. Or Aniplex, whichever. Did the first volume of the first season even break 6,000 between BD and DVD? I don't know if that's even enough to turn a profit for a SHAFT series, while we're talking about paying bills. (I forget, does the animation studio get paid a flat amount per episode? Or do they get a percentage of revenue?) |
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lossthief
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^I don't recall the final sales numbers for the home video volumes, but I recall it did have a significant increase in sales of the manga volumes, which can often be enough for the publishers to greenlight another season.
As for SHAFT working on the series, as I understand it Shinbo is a fan of the manga and Komi Naoshi seems friendly with the studio since he's even done an end card or two for their other series. |
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Chiibi
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The only stupid thing in Nisekoi was Onodera's asymmetrical hairstyle. :p Also, dtm, no offense but since you hated Toradora! as well....maybe romantic comedies aren't your thing...or maybe you are just really hard to please...idk. I do know that most times when you go "That anime sucks", I'm not inclined to trust you on that. |
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Ali07
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I'm with you on that. Purely for the selfish reason of wanting to see the end of the series animated. I'm not far into the manga (only volume 4) compared to some others, but I don't want a series like this to be dragged out too much longer than it is. It's up to volume 13 in Japan. And, as someone else mentioned, it would've been nice to have seen Double Arts get the sort of success Nisekoi has. I say this only because that world seemed to be one where exploration with a longer series would've been great. |
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dtm42
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Oh, romantic comedies are very much my thing. It's just that Sturgeon's Law means that good romcoms are rare.
Whether you trust me or not about something doesn't change its quality (or the lack thereof). |
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Chiibi
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I mean I don't trust your opinion of what a high quality or low quality show is. 
It IS an opinion, afterall. Do not act like your opinion is a concrete fact, please. Quality is subjective. |
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dtm42
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It demonstrably is not. If it were, Gundoh Musashi would be just as good as Mushi-shi, and Garzey's Wing would be just as good as Spirited Away. Surely you're not claiming something so ludicrous, right? |
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Rensie
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Is a good new, i kinda like the first season and the manga even if is full of clichè, well clichè or not it was fun so this don't matter.
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shamisen the great
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dtm42- but what qualities are you judging them by. A show can have poor production values and still be great. The examples you used where extremes. There are plenty of shows that are very divisive. For instance, I think studio Shaft is brilliant. Clearly there are people in this very forum who disagree. Neither of us has to be wrong. But then we've been around and around on this issue before, so I don't know why I am bothering typing this.
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