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ANNCast - Winter Wasteland

Also of note, Tony Oliver, Richard Epcar, and Michelle Ruff are returning to their Red Jacket series roles as Lupin, Jigen, and Fujiko for the dub of the show. No word on Lex Lang yet. I'm really looking forward to it.

Zac, that promo was glorious.

Okay, in hindsight I can definitely see how my post may have been better served as a PM to Zac instead of posting it on the forums. I didn't mean for this to be such a big blowout, it was just an immediate venue and my purpose honestly was not to start trouble.

So Hope mostly likes shows with high production values? Such a shallow reason to be honest.

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The tone of her review did come across as highly offended and pissed off. Add in the factual inaccuracies and it further comes across that she's so offended by it that her perception of events is getting twisted. And no, I'm not going after her "because she happens to be a woman." That's irrelevant. There are plenty of men out there who take their white knighting too far. I took issue with her "I felt I had to" comment because it brings her credibility into question. Anyone should share their thoughts as is and not purposely be theatric about it because they want more views or whatever.

You know how you aren't sexist, but you aren't phrasing yourself very well, and so it's easy to interpret you as trashing Hope's opinion and aggressively poking holes in what she said solely because she's a woman?

Like, it would be super easy for you to believe that I'd just completely dismiss your argument based on the fact that you kinda sound a whole lot like the guys who show up to fight every time a woman has a strong opinion on something?

That's tough for you, because while you respect Hope as a person and have no issue with Hope's gender, you do deeply disagree with her opinion and want to express your frustration with the way she chose to communicate it. It's hard to do that, because you have a strong authoritarian streak, and you also have a hard time masking how tired you are of being told to be careful when you're arguing with a woman on the internet. All you want to do is make sure Hope knows that the way she chose to communicate these ideas made you feel insulted - and that's really, really difficult to do without making yourself look like someone with a predetermined agenda rather than someone offering up legitimate critical feedback. You are, sincerely, offering the latter, however.

It's okay. I get your point.

This all sounds really familiar to me, like the time Hope wanted to express something that's really hard to get across - mainly that this show seems to be wallowing in a kind of mean-spirited otaku behavior that, when it's aimed at a woman, feels particularly belittling and objectifying. I saw the show, this isn't an extreme or totally left-field observation, it's a completely understandable reaction that, yes, a lot of people might disagree with. That's a tough sentiment to express in a way that isn't guaranteed to anger some very vocal people in the times we live in, and yes, you're likely to get a lot of blowback. Hope wound up clarifying what she meant on the show, though, and I thought it was a perfectly valid and understandable reaction.

You know, just like yours was, under all that clumsy language.