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Zin5ki
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:08 pm
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One imagines this will dampen the prospects of a more modestly-priced disc release. This being so, let us hope the third and fourth episode are eventually released for streaming in the same fashion as the first two.
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SilverTalon01
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:24 pm
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Ambimunch wrote: | Is this the beginning of every show getting the 4K treatment? Will I have to upgrade to a 4K tv soon |
Anime isn't like film. If it wasn't actually made in 4k, there isn't really much gain in them upscaling it on their end. Not to say they won't do it...
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jdnation
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:29 pm
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silentjay wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | Is this the beginning of every show getting the 4K treatment? Will I have to upgrade to a 4K tv soon |
Unless you have a UHD player, you'll need one if those, too. Regular blu-ray players won't play them. |
Yeah, if only there was some kind of PlayStation product that allowed us and Japanese consumers to access such content... some kind of premium version that would be perfect for 4K adopters...
Sadly there isn't...
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Nyren
Joined: 07 Oct 2014
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:32 pm
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jdnation wrote: |
silentjay wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | Is this the beginning of every show getting the 4K treatment? Will I have to upgrade to a 4K tv soon |
Unless you have a UHD player, you'll need one if those, too. Regular blu-ray players won't play them. |
Yeah, if only there was some kind of PlayStation product that allowed us and Japanese consumers to access such content... some kind of premium version that would be perfect for 4K adopters...
Sadly there isn't... |
Could always get the Xbox One S and use it as a fancy UHD player.
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JoeOfTomorrow
Joined: 19 Sep 2016
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:12 pm
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Nyren wrote: |
JoeOfTomorrow wrote: | Does this mean they're going to start re-releasing all Gundam series in 4K? If so, I' glad I didn't buy them yet. I still have my DVD's. I just wish they'd have started with something else. I found Thunderbolt to be quite boring and annoying too. |
Considering I wasn't planning to upgrade to a 4K HDR TV anytime soon, I grabbed Build Fighters on Blu-Ray so I could introduce my stepsisters to anime. However, with the announcement of this and gaming making a much bigger push into 4K HDR, I think I'm gonna have to pick up a new TV sooner rather than later. Thunderbolt will probably look amazing. |
No doubt it looks good but those jazz tunes make me cringe and therefore I couldn't finish it. I'm not a fan of jazz music and there aren't many tunes in that genre I like, but what is played in the movie is not among what passes for me. I just hope this is an indication of other Gundams getting 4K releases..
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IanC
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 6:27 pm
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Sure wish our 4K was an actual 4K TV. Only supports 4K at 30hz, what's the point of that?
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Wrangler
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:39 pm
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CRAP! I won't be able buy this thing because it's on this stupidly rare player format.
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Ouran High School Dropout
Joined: 28 Jun 2015
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:52 pm
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silentjay wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | Is this the beginning of every show getting the 4K treatment? Will I have to upgrade to a 4K tv soon |
Unless you have a UHD player, you'll need one if those, too. Regular blu-ray players won't play them. |
And if you use a receiver as a passthrough for audio, I think you'll need to replace it too.
Also, is this from a native 4K master?
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jymmy
Joined: 11 Nov 2011
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:34 pm
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IanC wrote: | Sure wish our 4K was an actual 4K TV. Only supports 4K at 30hz, what's the point of that? |
So it is a 4K TV then. And "what's the point" is a question you need to ask yourself. Most movies and TV shows are 24fps or 30fps. If you were looking to play PC games on it, then, yes, it would be a poor investment. What do you want to use it for?
With my most recent upgrade, I went for a 4K TV with HDMI 2.0, so it can display native 60Hz, but I run it at 24Hz because everything I watch on it is anime or some movies, 99% of which are 24fps anyway, so it's in its native framerate. (Also, my PC has just about the lowest-end graphics card with HDMI 2.0 anyway, so it tends to lag when I use a high-quality video renderer (madVR) in exclusive fullscreen mode at 60Hz anyway. I'll upgrade it some day, but for now my setup fully meets my needs since there's no >30Hz content I want to play on 4K.)
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DangerMouse
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 11:57 pm
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Awesome! It'll be good to finally have a 4K anime disc.
Also looks like it'll have 4K HDR test clips of a few others.
Ouran High School Dropout wrote: |
silentjay wrote: |
Ambimunch wrote: | Is this the beginning of every show getting the 4K treatment? Will I have to upgrade to a 4K tv soon |
Unless you have a UHD player, you'll need one if those, too. Regular blu-ray players won't play them. |
And if you use a receiver as a passthrough for audio, I think you'll need to replace it too.
Also, is this from a native 4K master? |
The good news is that some of the players fortunately have a second audio-out HDMI port for getting around an old receiver while still getting HD audio.
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AnimeLordLuis
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:20 am
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Well this might be the beginning of OVA's and quite possibly Anime films made in 4K Ultra HD however it will only happen if there are enough people interested in 4K.
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MrBonk
Joined: 23 Jan 2015
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:22 am
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Pointless, probably upscaled. (If native 4k, that's nice. But the vast majority of anime will never be even close)Probably still DNR'd on the ones that were originally on film.
Just imagine the extra price premium Surnise is gonna heckle out of this. Or if they released series on UHDBD
Very few of the existing Gundam Film Scans actually look like they'd be worth a 4k release.Even then, HDR is pretty pointless, because this is animation and you don't need HDR to be able to reproduce the color palette they actually used when making the shows. Making it even more oversaturated and adding artificial luminosity just seems wrong.
HDR, while a worthwhile upgrade.(just not for anime that have already been made). HDR should've been a 1080p TV Upgrade, because that's the real difference maker of 2k to 4kHDR. It's HDR, not the resolution. (And HDR is still in it's infancy, there isn't one singular gold standard that everyone produces content in or that every TV uses. And then for games, there's the additional extra processing latency. Just what we need. Even more input lag! Thankfully not all HDR sets add a significant amount)
4k is useless for anything not made or scanned in 4k and even if consoles could render at native 4k without CBR. 4k still needs good Anti Aliasing, and consoles have that almost never. (Meanwhile PS4p could provide 1080p with good AA finally and CBR with upscaling to 4k will have even more artifacts)
The inudstry, content and consoles are not anywhere near 4k ready. Upscaling in current commercial products(TVs,BDPs) and in processes used for anime releases are not good.
It's already bad enough when a lot of Anime BD's are horribly upscaled as is to 2k resolution.
This is all really the fault of the desperate TV industry. Consumer CRTs were around for decades before they started adding digital features to them. And since CRTs weren't fixed resolution, scaling was nary an issue. Some sets could resolve detail from a higher line count. But nothing like the money grubbing crap that is being pushed today. (Ironically enough Sony doesn't even want to give UHDBD a bigger chance at success with the omission from PS4p)
You can't even buy a high quality 1080p TV set anymore. It's all been relegated to budget models. Imagine if you could buy a high quality 1080p set that supported HDR and accepted 4kHDR signals(And downsampled them, which wouldn't lose you any picture quality. It'd actually increase it). You could get 1080pHDR gaming, and 4kHDR video content. Honestly the best of both worlds. It's not an impossible thing either, they could make it happen if they really wanted.
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AnimeAddict2014
Joined: 16 Feb 2015
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:13 pm
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what do you know..
there's 4K anime after all.. i'm guessing this is "upscaled" 4K here..
unless the original show was in native 4K to begin with..
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