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TheOtakuX



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:31 pm Reply with quote
This just makes the people who wrote the 'article' seem incredibly unlikable.
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Łukasz Kawosz



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:50 pm Reply with quote
TheOtakuX wrote:
This just makes the people who wrote the 'article' seem incredibly unlikable.


It's really hard to write articles about anime you find completely abhorrent but still you want those sweet, sweet clicks from ANN readers who enjoy the anime.
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omoikane



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:54 pm Reply with quote
TheOtakuX wrote:
This just makes the people who wrote the 'article' seem incredibly unlikable.


I think there is a circle of hell in which it's a bunch of meta circle-jerks on other people's meta-circle jerk takes on meta-circlejerk Japanese light novels in which you are forced to read, non-stop, forever.

A cynical view on this material is probably not the best approach, and cynicism is something professionals can turn on and off in their professional capacity, right? I mean, where's our herbivore takes here?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:05 pm Reply with quote
To give a less hostile response, I get the impression that the discussion comes from the assumption that a show being self-aware must necessarily be part of a takedown of the genre. It seriously misreads shows like this and what they're trying to do (Saekano had similar responses). The show is clearly written by and for fans of this stuff, all of whom are 100% aware of how stupid it all is, but love it anyway. So talking about the silly assumptions of the genre is the show's sense of humor, not an attempt at deconstructing anything. ("Wow, the conventions we all know and love are pretty stupid, aren't they?" not "These coventions are bad") To call that a failure because it doesn't reject its own attempt to be enjoyable seems like missing the point, and imposing certain storytelling conventions that just aren't applicable.

At the end of the day, the response is 'ew,' (a totally reasonable response) trying to be framed as 'this show is not working.' It is working, just not in any way you want it to be.
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Łukasz Kawosz



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:17 pm Reply with quote
Yttrbio wrote:
The show is clearly written by and for fans of this stuff, all of whom are 100% aware of how stupid it all is, but love it anyway.


But hey, aren't we talking about ANN there, who are supposed to like anime and all kinds of japanese media or something?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:34 pm Reply with quote
No? I mean, the whole 'ew, gross' response seems totally fair. The show is definitely a great subject for a column like this, because those reactions can be hilarious. I'm specifically talking about the idea that the show is betraying itself by indulging in the same silliness it jokes about.
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FilthyCasual



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:36 pm Reply with quote
It's a surprisingly comfy show with brutal and well-done moments like all of Haruto's suffering. Some parts of it are a bit much for me, like Setsuna accosting Chihiro or Nayu convincing Kaiko, but Imosae's generally an amusing show that evokes a surprising amount of emotion.

Itsuki was a complete to Miyako when they first met, though. I'm amazed she ever spoke to him again.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:46 pm Reply with quote
At this point the only thing that's keeping me watching this show is curiousity over whether the show will ever show the MC finding out that spoiler[his "stepbrother" is actually his "stepsister."]
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HolsteinCrab



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:51 pm Reply with quote
As a consumate trashwatcher, I must admit I thoroughly concur with almost everything expressed in this article. This show does have genuinely good moments going for it (I never thought one of my favourite moments this anime season would be an imouto obsessed LN author doing his taxes...) but the sex comedy, Nayu and the illustrator guy in particular, can be a huge deal breaker for some viewers. And as Jake and Micchy observed, there's the issue of the show 'trying to have its cake and eat it too' which can result in tonal dischord (such as episode 1 shifting from almost 20 minutes of absurd gross-out sex jokes to an abrupt serious attempt at romance that doesn't click at all with the previously established scenes) and makes me wish the show would just pick a stance and stick with it. The emotional realism it aims for can feel jarring when it follows the sexual harassment humour and vice versa. When the show was downplaying the sexual harassment gags (or at least limiting it to Nayu and the fantasy sequences) it was much easier for me to enjoy and take in scenes such as Itsuki's creative block. If it wants to be a show about ridiculous fetish fuel then that's fine, just it's a bit awkward having chunks of the script feel as though they belong in a completely different show.

On a dumber note, whilst Itsuki doing his taxes was undeniably the highlight of the show for me, I loved how they went and got so many big name seiyuu for his trash fantasy sequences. (There's just something so beautifully audacious to me about hiring Hikaru Midorikawa and Akira Ishida to do 2-3 lines each as imouto devoted teenage boys in a trashy LN - iirc they also got Yui Horie and Yukana as the imoutos for that one. And Hekiru Shiina I think was credited as the imouto in the shark sequence. Oh right and they had Souichirou Hoshi and Mariko Kouda in that opening sequence, didn't they? Hmm... for the climax can we expect Megumi Hayashibara imouto then?)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:12 pm Reply with quote
You guys do realize the most NSFW image related to this article is the preview image, right? The one on every page.

Thanks. I currently have to shrink the window so the sidebar doesn't show. Or I guess I can reset my preferences so they go to the bottom of the page, but I usually prefer to see the sidebar to show me what the newest features are.
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Dop.L



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:51 pm Reply with quote
The best things in this show are the beer references. It's so usual to see characters in anime swilling some fizzy lager that having characters drink stouts - and real actual beers (though sadly not imported) to boot, is remarkable and many of the brews they've featured sound interesting.

On top of that, there's the germ of a much better series lurking in here. The bit about being locked up to meet your deadline. The bit where the anime based on the other guy's books turns out to be a big flop - where the show takes itself a bit more seriously and eschews its bad ecchi garbage then you get the feeling it could be so much better.
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Chrono1000



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:56 pm Reply with quote
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while parading anime girls onscreen for the viewer's pleasure; that's not how satire works.
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that 100% panders to the audience.
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She's SO transparently written to be the Perfect Geek Girlfriend, it's infuriating.
Well I don't see a problem with fanservice or making a show that panders to a male audience. Goodness knows this show dials everything up to eleven and contains a lot of crude humor but Nayu loving Itsuki is a major part of the story.

FilthyCasual wrote:
It's a surprisingly comfy show with brutal and well-done moments like all of Haruto's suffering. Some parts of it are a bit much for me, like Setsuna accosting Chihiro or Nayu convincing Kaiko, but Imosae's generally an amusing show that evokes a surprising amount of emotion.
Agreed, it occasionally crosses the line but most of the time I find it to be an amusing comedy. Also any show that has an episode in which the characters play a TRPG deserves some credit.
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:56 pm Reply with quote
I enjoy plenty of trash. Or I like to think I do. But this series generally did not work for me. So yeah, I mostly agree with the opinions in the article on this one.
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Merxamers



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:12 pm Reply with quote
The first 2 minutes of this show were so gross and off-putting that i had a moral crisis about the media i choose to consume
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Stevangelion



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:37 pm Reply with quote
TheOtakuX wrote:
This just makes the people who wrote the 'article' seem incredibly unlikable.


I felt the exact same way and I haven't even seen the show yet.
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