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Aca Vuksa



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:22 pm Reply with quote
This is going to be the worst video gaming community in Japan in history right now. Crying or Very sad
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Replica_Rabbit



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:42 pm Reply with quote
Huh, so Nobuhiro Watsuki only pays 200,000 yen for having child pornography, while this person who mod a few games gets a 300,000 yen charge. Then again, if Nobuhiro Watsuki was modding the games and selling them he probably wouldn't get charge that high. Anyway, the fine should be around a jaywalking ticket.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:24 pm Reply with quote
So he copied the game into a different cart... and then sold it for double the retail price of the legit game?
Who was buying these?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:41 pm Reply with quote
I'm so glad that all the other crime in Japan has been so eradicated they can dedicate their resources to enforcing nonsense like this. Well, this, and draconian drug laws.
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ranran-001



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:02 pm Reply with quote
Yuvelir wrote:
So he copied the game into a different cart... and then sold it for double the retail price of the legit game?
Who was buying these?


I've got a modded 3ds and I can guess as to what he did. Likely, he had copied a game save from one of his Pokemon cartridges and modified it on a pc. Then he transferred the game save back on to a legit Pokemon cartridge.
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Kruszer
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:31 pm Reply with quote
Why are the police in Japan wasting their time on petty crap like this? Do they get a payoff from the game company for catching these small potatoes?
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-SP-



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:16 pm Reply with quote
Replica_Rabbit wrote:
Huh, so Nobuhiro Watsuki only pays 200,000 yen for having child pornography, while this person who mod a few games gets a 300,000 yen charge. Then again, if Nobuhiro Watsuki was modding the games and selling them he probably wouldn't get charge that high. Anyway, the fine should be around a jaywalking ticket.

Stop bringing that up, seriously tired of that shit. I hate seeing it, even though it happened a while ago. Stop giving him attention.
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Meongantuk



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:29 pm Reply with quote
ranran-001 wrote:
Yuvelir wrote:
So he copied the game into a different cart... and then sold it for double the retail price of the legit game?
Who was buying these?


I've got a modded 3ds and I can guess as to what he did. Likely, he had copied a game save from one of his Pokemon cartridges and modified it on a pc. Then he transferred the game save back on to a legit Pokemon cartridge.


but is it worth it to sell that twice the retail price? Considering you could get the save data for free on the internet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:08 am Reply with quote
More proof that Japanese cyber crime legislation is written by boomers.
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FinalVentCard



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:27 am Reply with quote
-SP- wrote:
Replica_Rabbit wrote:
Huh, so Nobuhiro Watsuki only pays 200,000 yen for having child pornography, while this person who mod a few games gets a 300,000 yen charge. Then again, if Nobuhiro Watsuki was modding the games and selling them he probably wouldn't get charge that high. Anyway, the fine should be around a jaywalking ticket.

Stop bringing that up, seriously tired of that shit. I hate seeing it, even though it happened a while ago. Stop giving him attention.


Yeah, it happened in the long-ago year of... last year. Confused

Yeah, no. I'm of the mind that you really shouldn't be testing your luck and modding the content of one of the most watchful companies that really doesn't like content mods, but modding a game shouldn't incur a higher fine than possession of child pornography.
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chronos02



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:11 am Reply with quote
Well, for one, Watsuki had legally acquired all his collection before changes in the law made it illegal to purchase AND to possess the stuff (which is seriously bonkers, law regarding physical and data media should not be retroactive, if you don't know why, it's your problem), however, he did buy a few more items throughout the years after the law was enforced, which is what eventually caused the whole ordeal (afaik, he collected those ever since he was 14).

Now, this new "law" the japanese have made is simply retarded, the individual sale of modified data on cartridges is not something the law should intervene with unless it's part of an organised group that does this, and what this man did was simply copy save data into new cartridges of the game, previously edited on a PC. ANYONE can do this, if people pay for it, let them. And going after the store because they suspect they might be related to this because they sold a machine that allows you to transfer save data from a 3DS cartridge into the PC and vice versa? Nuts. The next time there's a murder, we must investigate all the arms manufacturers, designers and testers, as well as the knife industry because they are suspects of involvement with the murders.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:17 pm Reply with quote
Let's keep it on topic folk, and not about others who this article has nothing to do with.
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:25 pm Reply with quote
Thank God for the right of first sale in the US. I'm sure there's some other sort of DMCA garbage that technically makes things similar to this illegal here too, though I highly doubt it'd be enforced.
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Crispy45



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:04 pm Reply with quote
Kruszer wrote:
Why are the police in Japan wasting their time on petty crap like this? Do they get a payoff from the game company for catching these small potatoes?


There's quite literally nothing else for them to do

https://www.economist.com/asia/2017/05/18/as-crime-dries-up-japans-police-hunt-for-things-to-do

And copyright law is a pretty big thing, you know.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:45 am Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:

I'm so glad that all the other crime in Japan has been so eradicated they can dedicate their resources to enforcing nonsense like this. Well, this, and draconian drug laws.


Every year, Japanese authorities hire much more than enough police officers for the crime rates that they have. They literally can and do assign thousands of police officers for a single manhunt............... of a fugitive thief:

"Japan's gripping manhunt ends in capture"

Quote:
Tatsuma Hirao, 27, had made a run for it from an open prison in the town of Imabari.

Police deployed more than 6,000 officers on the small island of Mukaishima, using everything from dogs to helicopters and drones.

Hirao was not considered a dangerous criminal.

Serving five and a half years for theft, he was being held at a facility where inmates are free to walk about without walls or fences.


Those taxes gotta go somewhere.
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