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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:41 pm Reply with quote
There's already a patch for this which restores the three CGs, and an extra scene, and fixes a few other minor things.

That's the great thing about Steam/PC, as long as someone is willing to put in the effort to create them, censorship can be patched away. And for a major title like Rewrite, that was a given...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:59 pm Reply with quote
^^^^^^

Its really telling that this is where we're at now with steam and VNs though, its such a crapshoot as to what they will consider acceptable versus unacceptable. I can think of dozens of games off the top of my head that featured way worse than the CGs that were edited out
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:26 pm Reply with quote
It's also hilarious to imagine how these changes are necessary for a Steam release, when Steam just has straight-up porn on it.
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Yttrbio



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:33 pm Reply with quote
Aside from the middle one, I don't even understand how the edited version is more acceptable.
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CrypticPurpose



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:37 pm Reply with quote
This is just ridiculous - just how prude are we as a society that art has to be defiled like this just to be released? It really reminds me of how we once sanded the genitals off of antique statues and tried to make the remains look like a fig leaf. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up adopting traditional middle-eastern women's clothing styles in our quest for puritanical "decency"...
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Millhi



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:11 pm Reply with quote
Eh don't really mind this one all that much but steam is dumb lol. At least instead of just censoring the CGs, they just used the original rewrite cgs for these scenes. (god knows why KEY/VA even decided these ones had to be lewder when they released rewrite+)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:35 pm Reply with quote
09jcg wrote:
Its really telling that this is where we're at now with steam and VNs though, its such a crapshoot as to what they will consider acceptable versus unacceptable. I can think of dozens of games off the top of my head that featured way worse than the CGs that were edited out

Crapshoot is right. In a followup post on the Kickstarter, Sekai Project said that they couldn't risk Valve perma-banning the game based on their one shot at a review:
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Without going in to too much detail due to signed agreements, when a build is submitted to Steam it gets reviewed by Valve. If they find content that goes against their policies, there is a high possibility of the build being banned with no way to appeal. Other times, they will let you make adjustments and resubmit a build but from our experience it's still more likely the build will get banned right away. Other developers and publishers might have had similar or not so similar experiences too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:04 pm Reply with quote
invalidname wrote:
09jcg wrote:
Its really telling that this is where we're at now with steam and VNs though, its such a crapshoot as to what they will consider acceptable versus unacceptable. I can think of dozens of games off the top of my head that featured way worse than the CGs that were edited out

Crapshoot is right. In a followup post on the Kickstarter, Sekai Project said that they couldn't risk Valve perma-banning the game based on their one shot at a review:
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Without going in to too much detail due to signed agreements, when a build is submitted to Steam it gets reviewed by Valve. If they find content that goes against their policies, there is a high possibility of the build being banned with no way to appeal. Other times, they will let you make adjustments and resubmit a build but from our experience it's still more likely the build will get banned right away. Other developers and publishers might have had similar or not so similar experiences too.


It should be noted that the decision to do this was also influenced by Amatsutsumi failing its one chance, despite Sekai investing resources creating a version specifically for Steam. So it makes sense why they're cautious.

I suppose the best way to handle Steam may well be what Shiravune is doing. Submit everything to Steam and half of the stuff like Meteor World Actor will randomly be rejected for no discernable reason, but half of the stuff will randomly be allowed for no discernable reason, like Saimin Gakushuu. Since there's no real way to figure out what is and isn't allowed, try everything but expect nothing and always have a back up plan.
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09jcg



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:23 pm Reply with quote
hexashadow13 wrote:
invalidname wrote:
09jcg wrote:
Its really telling that this is where we're at now with steam and VNs though, its such a crapshoot as to what they will consider acceptable versus unacceptable. I can think of dozens of games off the top of my head that featured way worse than the CGs that were edited out

Crapshoot is right. In a followup post on the Kickstarter, Sekai Project said that they couldn't risk Valve perma-banning the game based on their one shot at a review:
Quote:
Without going in to too much detail due to signed agreements, when a build is submitted to Steam it gets reviewed by Valve. If they find content that goes against their policies, there is a high possibility of the build being banned with no way to appeal. Other times, they will let you make adjustments and resubmit a build but from our experience it's still more likely the build will get banned right away. Other developers and publishers might have had similar or not so similar experiences too.


It should be noted that the decision to do this was also influenced by Amatsutsumi failing its one chance, despite Sekai investing resources creating a version specifically for Steam. So it makes sense why they're cautious.

I suppose the best way to handle Steam may well be what Shiravune is doing. Submit everything to Steam and half of the stuff like Meteor World Actor will randomly be rejected for no discernable reason, but half of the stuff will randomly be allowed for no discernable reason, like Saimin Gakushuu. Since there's no real way to figure out what is and isn't allowed, try everything but expect nothing and always have a back up plan.
I think another part of the problem is that Key/Visual Arts needs to be willing to let things exist on DRM free platforms, like Sekai's own storefront. They can sell the censored version on steam and sell the uncensored version through Jast, mangagamer, denpa, etc. It's not like a pirated and translated version of Rewrite hasn't been out in the wild for the last 5 years. That ship has sailed, they need to prioritize the good will of the customers. This is just bad optics that could be avoided if they do what some of the other VN companies are doing
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rizuchan



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:15 pm Reply with quote
Yeah supposedly Visual Arts is only allowing Rewrite to be sold on Steam, so I don't blame Sekai Project for being overly cautious - what the heck would have happened to this project had it been rejected?? Maybe Visual Arts is just big enough that they could have some sway in getting the game approved, or maybe they would eventually give in and allow it to be published somewhere else, but imagine a world where we only get Rewrite+ on a physical disc, in this day and age...
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Dark Mac



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:16 pm Reply with quote
The main thing Valve goes after is content with students. They get upset when there's sexualized content for underage characters.

On top of that, adults only games on Steam are basically a separate category and most of them sell a lot less due to being inside it. Being in that category is unacceptable for a lot of devs, especially since some countries ban everything that's in that category.

They're also selling the uncensored version not on Steam, but 90% of PC game sales are through Steam, so that probably doesn't matter to most people.
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MarthKoopa



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:03 pm Reply with quote
I don't see the big deal because the "censored" CGs are simply the original ones, from the non+ release. The modifications for + took the fanservice to a degree that simply isn't needed in Rewrite. Good change IMO. Keep it classy
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