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barrelroller



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:06 pm Reply with quote
I just finished this last week as well. I'm going to be re-watching in Japanese again soon. The only thing I'm upset about is that the anime pretty much wiped out any chance it may of had of rebooting (which Bones seems to love doing recently). Looks like I'll have to start reading the manga for my SE fix from now on.

Regardless, the anime did wrap everything up. The last battle barely made any sense at all and it felt like someone was smashing their keyboard when they were writing the last few episodes, but I'm not gonna go on too much about it. What's done is done. It's a good anime and with the eh ending aside, I still recommend it as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:52 pm Reply with quote
barrelroller wrote:
The only thing I'm upset about is that the anime pretty much wiped out any chance it may of had of rebooting (which Bones seems to love doing recently)


What's this "recently"? The only sequels/reboots have been to Eureka 7, FMA, and Darker than Black, and they have over a dozen and a half unique IP's in their catalog.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:53 pm Reply with quote
Well this guy suck at reviewing dubs, I liked the person that reviewed Part 3 better. I mean, I liked the whole toned down feel of Soul Eater with the English dub. I made the series that much easier to take in the serious moments. Black Star, I was skeptical about at first but into the first 4 episodes I wasn't bothered by it at all and by the 10 episode he sounded just fine and natural.

Also, the English Dub told the story of Soul Eater better in my eyes, because, since it didn't take a sarcastic/comedic approach to the whole show it made the serious parts feel... you know more SERIOUS. But, that's just me. I just couldn't take the Japanese version as serious as the dubbed version. Which, is what I was looking for in Soul Eater. So to me the English Dub is the more accurate interpretation of Soul Eater's mood and energy level.

I highly recommend this series. It's just as good as everyone says it is.

Also, the possibility of a sequel is pretty much non existent. All the loose ends are tied and the series ends with an actually ending. Unlike most anime.

Which is not to say they is no possibility for a sequel. I mean the interesting tad bit about Maka in the last episode and the last fight. The story behind Souls really name, and to actually see Maka's mother. But, if there is a sequel it would be more focused on Maka, since there is nothing of interest left for Kid and Black Star, at least in my eyes. But, they can always make new character development for them.

I will end my rant there.
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ArsenicSteel



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:06 am Reply with quote
Soul Eater didn't have much of an ending since it looked more like a beginning. They even called it something like a new beginning.

Also goodluck with a 3rd party dub without the guidance of the director and mangaka being able to better depict the intentions of the anime.

Mr. Kimlinger generally offers the most even-handed insight on dubs and subs out of the reviewers at ANN.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:53 am Reply with quote
Rinkwolf wrote:
Well this guy suck at reviewing dubs, I liked the person that reviewed Part 3 better. I mean, I liked the whole toned down feel of Soul Eater with the English dub. I made the series that much easier to take in the serious moments. Black Star, I was skeptical about at first but into the first 4 episodes I wasn't bothered by it at all and by the 10 episode he sounded just fine and natural.



If only some friends of mine could get that through their heads.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:19 am Reply with quote
barrelroller wrote:
I just finished this last week as well. I'm going to be re-watching in Japanese again soon. The only thing I'm upset about is that the anime pretty much wiped out any chance it may of had of rebooting (which Bones seems to love doing recently). Looks like I'll have to start reading the manga for my SE fix from now on.


Why do you say that? They could just do a manga reboot like they did with Brotherhood.
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Crona faces her mother's evil and redeems herself,


So Carl believes that Crona may in fact be a girl and not a boy, even though Crona keeps being referred to as a "he" in the series. That's understandable, considering the ongoing debate of Crona's ambiguous gender (even among the dub actors, apparently). But since Crona is neither entirely boyish or entirely girlish, has anyone thought of the possibility that Crona may simply be transgendered? I think it makes more sense than anything else.

I liked the series for what it was, but I wonder about the manga ending. I'm not asking for spoilers, but does anyone know if it's more fulfilling than the anime ending?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:54 am Reply with quote
Joe Mello wrote:
barrelroller wrote:
The only thing I'm upset about is that the anime pretty much wiped out any chance it may of had of rebooting (which Bones seems to love doing recently)


What's this "recently"? The only sequels/reboots have been to Eureka 7, FMA, and Darker than Black, and they have over a dozen and a half unique IP's in their catalog.

I was mainly pointing out the remake of FMA. If they reboot Soul Eater, they will have the give the anime the Brotherhood treatment which I feel will only ever happen to FMA.

v1cious wrote:
Why do you say that? They could just do a manga reboot like they did with Brotherhood.

The reason why the reboot was done so well was because the original FMA anime had so much filler added to it. If you watched Part 1 of Brotherhood (13 episodes), you can see the whole set covers all of the canon material that the first series had. After that, the series broke off from the manga, and ended with a alternative ending.

However, Soul Eater was very fateful to the manga... but then episode 35 hit and it changed everything to fit with the new ending. The only way SE had a chance of coming back is they put the series on hold after the Brew arc (I only watched the anime, so I have yet to know if anything was already changed before that), but since Japan has the inability to put anime on hiatus for a few months, they just went ahead and ended it.

If Soul Eater was like the first FMA series where every other episode was filler, then a reboot may of happened, but since it wasn't, It's not gonna happen at all. That's how I see it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:22 am Reply with quote
I feel Black Star's English VA definitely got better as the series went on.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:22 am Reply with quote
v1cious wrote:
barrelroller wrote:
I just finished this last week as well. I'm going to be re-watching in Japanese again soon. The only thing I'm upset about is that the anime pretty much wiped out any chance it may of had of rebooting (which Bones seems to love doing recently). Looks like I'll have to start reading the manga for my SE fix from now on.


Why do you say that? They could just do a manga reboot like they did with Brotherhood.


I think there's a diffrence between FMA and SE. FMA = really popular while SE = not as popular. you won't see SE in many top 10's but you might see FMA.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:19 am Reply with quote
pachy_boy wrote:
I liked the series for what it was, but I wonder about the manga ending. I'm not asking for spoilers, but does anyone know if it's more fulfilling than the anime ending?


The manga hasn't ended yet. It's currently in the middle of a manga-only arc. I have not yet finished the anime (only up to episode 37), but from what I've seen of both, I do think the manga is more fulfilling. The anime had many weaknesses pop up when part 3 came around that the events just felt better done in the manga (or at least didn't feel as sluggish or dull). With more material, the manga is able to go more indepth with the characters (not to say they're particularly deep, but they're more fleshed out than what the anime allowed). Also, the current arc has a very interesting plot with some highly amusing moments thrown in. Plus, as someone else mentioned, with episode 35 the anime changes events around and goes in a different direction.

I'd love to go on a rant on how dedicating two whole episodes to Excalibur was exceedingly annoying and one of the stupidest moves made, but I won't go there. I know that many people out there were entertained, but I certainly wasn't. (In fact, I had to go fix myself a margarita during the first episode of the two).


v1cious wrote:
Why do you say that? They could just do a manga reboot like they did with Brotherhood.


As far as I know, SE is nowhere near as popular as other shounen like FMA, Bleach, Naruto, or One Piece. I had only heard it in passing a few times on forums, but it wasn't until people started reviewing the releases on ANN that I really became aware of it. FMA was popular enough to warrant itself a remake. I don't see that happening for SE (which is sad, since SE is one of my favorite shounen series... infinitely better than Bleach and Naruto at least).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:56 pm Reply with quote
garfield15 wrote:
I feel Black Star's English VA definitely got better as the series went on.

That's usually the case with all voice actors in general. After hearing the Japanese actors for Maka & Blackstar, I actually preferred the English actors.

willag wrote:
As far as I know, SE is nowhere near as popular as other shounen like FMA, Bleach, Naruto, or One Piece. I had only heard it in passing a few times on forums, but it wasn't until people started reviewing the releases on ANN that I really became aware of it. FMA was popular enough to warrant itself a remake. I don't see that happening for SE (which is sad, since SE is one of my favorite shounen series... infinitely better than Bleach and Naruto at least).


You took the words out of my mouth. FMA had a huge fanbase after the end of the first series, and the filler content from the first series even got a big movie. A reboot for FMA was a no brainer. SE on the other hand, is as you said, not nearly as popular and probably will not get the same treatment.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:27 pm Reply with quote
barrelroller wrote:

That's usually the case with all voice actors in general. After hearing the Japanese actors for Maka & Blackstar, I actually preferred the English actors.

Black Star is either-or for me, but I completely prefer dubbed Maka to Japanese Maka. I mean, jeez that voice sounded annoying.

Ironically, she sounded great in Arakawa Under the Bridge.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:35 pm Reply with quote
Another possible continuation for the series (for a sequel) would have to be to include more insight on the other members of Death's personal guard. I mean, we got introduced to only 2 (possibly 3) of what seemed to be 7 guards. They can go in depth of that and make a sequel of that. But, that is unlikely.

I for one liked the ending and was happy for once an anime has an ending that didn't leave anything unfinished. Which is more than I can say for most anime that run 26 episode let alone 51. Thus, I was satisfied with this.

ArsenicSteel wrote:

Also good luck with a 3rd party dub without the guidance of the director and mangaka being able to better depict the intentions of the anime.

Mr. Kimlinger generally offers the most even-handed insight on dubs and subs out of the reviewers at ANN.


Really? I mean to me it sounded like he/she was just complaining that it didn't fallow the Japanese dub and made it different...... which in turn made it better for English viewing audience.

Also, about the director and mangaka not being involved, well you can always get that by watching the Japanese Dub. However, I think that is a good thing. Not everything that comes out of Japan is gold. What they did in the Japanese dub worked for the Japanese but they wouldn't be able to adapt it into English better then the people that speak it as a first language and understand the audience it's targeting.

If funimation consulted the Director and Managaka about Desert Punk and made it more faithful, it would have flat out sucked comparted to the current adaption.

I don't know about you but I would rather have an english adaption made by people that speak English not Engrish. It could just be me though.
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Really? I mean to me it sounded like he/she was just complaining that it didn't fallow the Japanese dub and made it different...... which in turn made it better for English viewing audience.

Also, about the director and mangaka not being involved, well you can always get that by watching the Japanese Dub. However, I think that is a good thing. Not everything that comes out of Japan is gold. What they did in the Japanese dub worked for the Japanese but they wouldn't be able to adapt it into English better then the people that speak it as a first language and understand the audience it's targeting.


Well you are free to "think" he implies the difference makes it better for the English dub but "thinking" that way and ignoring the ratings given is a bit problematic.


Who is talking about everything that comes out of Japan, I am only commenting on the Soul Eater review. You said you think the English dub captures the true intentions better than the original. That is laughable as the original had different tones that match what is going on in every scene. The redub sometimes does not match the visuals. It wasn't that the redub was more serious it just lacked the energy the original had.


I am not saying that Japanese writers should do the adaptation of the English script, saying that sounds pretty odd. The English crew didn't match the benchmark set by the original. Yes the original is the benchmark because the original script is used but adapted and the actors view the original performances during their dub process in an attempt to recapture what has been done.

SE is a decent dub but it does not surpass or match the original. SE is not one of the better Funi dubs.
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