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lesterf1020
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:58 am Reply with quote
I was just thinking about how much I wanted to like Fafner when it occurred to me that it had one of the more unusual reasons for a hostile alien invasion. I have been a big fan of Sci-Fi for all of my life and one of the more common story elements is the hostile alien invasion. However, I would say that in well over 90 percent of those invasions the aliens have one of five reasons for initiating hostilities.

1. That’s just who they are. The aliens are evil or conquest minded and that’s just what they do.
2. They want what we have. The aliens are here to take some natural resource like water or gold or chocolate marshmallows that for some reason they can’t find anywhere else in the universe and they don’t want to negotiate or trade for it.
3. They want to use us as a natural resource. They want to use us as food or slaves or batteries or hosts or warriors or entertainment and they don’t care how we feel about it.
4. They just need the real estate. They just want the planet for terraforming or as a strategic base or they are making an interstellar highway or a new Burger King and we are in the way.
5. We started it. We were the ones that provoked the aliens either by a really bad first contact or by destroying something precious to them or simply attacking them directly.


I can only think of three unusual hostile alien invasions that don’t fit those 5 reasons. Naturally because these are major plot revelations I will use spoilers.

Fafner. spoiler[ As I understand it, the reason for the alien invasion is that we are just too fundamentally different to the aliens and they refuse to accept that we can exist. We violate their ideology and understanding of life and like any good ideological fundamentalist they have decided that if the facts don’t match the theory get rid of the facts, hence the war.]

Yukikaze. spoiler[The aliens in Yukikaze are interested in permanent rapid evolution. They attacked humanity to provoke an eternal war to force rapid adaptation and evolution for both races.]

Scrapped Princess. spoiler[The aliens in Scraped Princess see humanity as a precious rare species. However, they were convinced we would destroy ourselves because of our nature and attacked us in order to preserve us.]

So has any one come across other unusual reasons for a hostile alien invasion that don’t fall into one of the 5 I mentioned?
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Alan45
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:11 pm Reply with quote
Outlanders The manga by Johji Manabe spoiler[They were here first. It turns out that Earth was their long lost mother planet. We apparently arose during the period it was lost. They see us like we would a raccoon family that took up residence in the old family farm. Of course in quick succession they destroy Tokyo, Japan and eventually the entire planet.] I'm not sure if the anime version is the same as I haven't watched it yet.
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Unicorn_Blade



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:00 pm Reply with quote
Onegai Teacher features aliens that from what I recall want to monitor Earth to make sure humans do not follow a path to destruction, and one alien that arrives happens to spoiler[get married to one of them.]
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:15 pm Reply with quote
Gundam 00: spoiler[The ELS had to abandon their homeworld and went out in search of help. The problem is their method of communication is assimilation so they end up destroying whatever they come across. In that sense they're not really hostile, and they only fight back because they mimic the humans in an attempt to understand them.]
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Beltane70



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:09 am Reply with quote
Argento Soma:spoiler[The invading aliens are eventually revealed to be fragments of a lost astronaut's consciousness trying to return to his home.]
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Animegomaniac



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:21 am Reply with quote
6 Earth as Bystander or "We were just minding our own business and then, bam, we're in an interstellar war!"

Takes a lot more thought because the show has to create more than one enemy faction without really playing sides but I think La Grange: Flower of Rinne did it well.

Oh boy...
7 God told them to
Heroic Age. The war was over once everyone sorted out what the Golden Tribe really meant. It didn't save the Earth in time {oh, we also lost spoiler[Jupiter] as well but these things happen} but it gives humanity something positive to do for a change. We also got spoiler[an entire alien race] ... as a pet! The series kind of skimmed over that one...


8 Your guess is as good as ours
What you get when you get to the "alien" alien end of the spectrum rather than Human Aliens, from Lovecraftian horrors to oblong shapes. Giant attacking shapes. That are being fought by giant robots... ring any bells yet?

Sometimes a test, more often the actual end of the world, humanity, everyone some guy named Shinji knows...

And I call it that because it's quite clear the creators don't know either and they don't really care because it's not the point. That series and Saikano... oh, wow, that one was something special...
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:19 pm Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
Sometimes a test...


Yep, that was RahXephon in a nutshell. spoiler[The world was ending due to two dimensions colliding, so the Mu "invaded" our version of Earth to spark a war which would later serve as Ayato's training.]
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batou37



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:49 pm Reply with quote
Might not be an anime and not necessarily a "hostile invasion" but what about district 9? Weren't they here basically because their ride broke down?
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SpacemanHardy



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet: spoiler[IT WAS MAN ALL ALONG!!! Invaders turn out to actually be evolved human beings who had become modified in order to survive in the vacuum of space, only for some of them to abandon their humanity completely and become an interstellar alien threat, while others turned into squid and lived peacefully in the oceans of Earth.]
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:04 am Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
6 Earth as Bystander or "We were just minding our own business and then, bam, we're in an interstellar war!"


Level E is a good example of this theme. The reason for the war is pretty hilarious.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:54 am Reply with quote
Well there's always mass effect, trying to increase biodiversity, or rather prevent the homogenization of life form in the galaxy.

I actually kinda like the idea, would have made for something interesting if it had been slowly developed over the 3 game rather than being brought up in the last 5 min of the last one.

You can also look at the initial war with the turian which was essentially cause we were breaking a law of the galactic nation we didn't even know existed.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:12 am Reply with quote
That brings to mind The Day The Earth Stood Still.


9. For our own damn good They might come and conquer us outright, or just enough that we get the message. Either way, humanity's destined to be forced to change its ways.


EDIT:

10. For fun Anal probing rednecks no longer doing it for you? Why, just have yourself a nice human hunt! Drive them to extinction or just to the brink so you can come and do it again! Just pray that a certain android sticks to cheapo AA batteries.
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