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undeadben
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This is a game similar to Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon. The idea is to name two Voice actors and see if we can link them within six steps to each other by casts they have worked with in other shows. The twist is that we are mixing English Voice Actors and Japanese seiyuu to each other.
Obviously there are not a lot of English VAs that have worked in Japanese casts and there are not many seiyuu that have worked on an English cast. So the way to connect a Japanese actor with an English counterpart will be that they played the same role at some point. For instance I would link Jonathan Fahn to Hiroshi Yanaka in that they both voiced Shikaku Nara from Naruto. I did it that way (first connected the English to a Japanese seiyuu) because I know seiyuu better so it is easier for me to work with, but others might want to link the seiyuu to an English VA first so that they can complete the remaining steps in the separation through the English casts. Either way is fine. On the rare occasion that someone does find a seiyuu that worked in an English cast or the other way around, you don't have to match the role and can just use the cast for the connection. Since this essentially six degrees of separation one last note is to explain that a step/degree is a connection. In other words when you link two actors. If you just name a seiyuu/actor and anime that is half the step, when you then name the other actor in that same anime to continue this connection that completes the step. Step 0 is just naming one actor/seiyuu and the first anime you are using to link from. And basically that's it. Link an English VA to a Japanese seiyuu, or vice versa, within six steps and then post your own game. To test yourself to see if you have it right you can follow the Encyclopedia links from cast to cast to make sure they connect. And as another suggestion if you post a game and someone gets it but differently than the way you originally connected it, then please tell us how you had it connected either by editing your original post or by making a new one. [EDIT: Split your thread from that other one and renamed it for ya'. -TK] Thanks, TK! 
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Darknight55
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Well the best way to find out how something would work is to try it , eh Undeadben?
Were you thinking something like this...? Link Megumi Hayashibara to Noriaki Sugiyama (The voice of Sasuke in Naruto) in as few links as possible. |
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frentymon
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So a possible answer would be something like this?: Noriaki Sugiyama voiced Shirou Emiya from Fate/Stay Night. Yuu Asakawa had a role in the same series, as Rider. Yuu Asakawa and Megumi Hayashibara starred in Love Hina, as Motoko and Haruka, respectively. |
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Darknight55
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thats something like what I was thinking of... I dont know what Undeadben thought though.
And yeah... finding rules for a game like that would be hard....cause there are lots of different links that can be made in the same number of steps...(well at least for someone as prolific as Megumi Hayashibara) For example... I was thinking for the one I made Megumi was in 3x3 eyes with Kouji Tsujitani... Kouji was in Fate/ Stay night with Noriaki.... |
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Subaru19
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Or you could get even more funky and try and link Japanese voice actors and American ones. As in such and such actor was a character in X anime and the other was the Japanese voice actor for the same character.
Let me see here... Howbout Bridget Hoffman and Megumi Hayashibara. (This can be done in three steps) |
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undeadben
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Yeah either Frentymon's longer answer or this one would answer the separation the way I had thought it up. Just link the two actors to each other through the other actors they worked with in same casts. And like you said, making up the rules would be one of the hard parts along with how to do it. And another thing is hitting the snags that come with those seiyuu that have played parts in 200+ anime and so often end up being easy to link. Maybe in the case of seiyuu a better way would be to pick seiyuu that have few roles so they are harder to link. But going with seiyuu that aren't highly prolific, a rule would have to be that the person posting the query would have to make sure they do connect within the six degrees or steps.
This is interesting too, it would give it an added degree of difficulty. Especially with the lesser known or less prolific actors. In your case I believe that a good answer would be: Megumi Hayashibara was in Ranma 1/2 with Kikuko Inoue who voiced Belldandy in Ah My Goddess the Movie, and Bridget Hoffman under the name Ruby Marlowe was the English VA of Belldandy for the AMG movie dub. And you can also make the last connection with Mini-Goddess as well. Now if you want to be strict that Hoffman had to play the role under her correct name instead of an assumed one then the last connection can be made with Mizuho Kazami of Please Teacher instead. There are a lot of possibilities in how to do it, but placing restrictions and such on posting can make it difficult and fun to try and solve the connections. But I think with just posting about it we might be coming up with a way to do it so it works well. I do like that linking the English VAs with Japanese Seiyuu using same characters as the final connection between Japanese and English casts. Just to try another this way, how about: Eric Vale (A stage name name for Eric Johnson) and Sakura Tange. |
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PantsGoblin
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I haven't seen anybody bring it up, but we did have a little seiyuu game going on a little over a year ago (I swear, it didn't seem like it was that long ago though...).
animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22337 |
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frentymon
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Step 0: Eric Vale was the English voice of Karasuma Oji in School Rumble. Step 1: Konishi Hiroki was the Japanese voice of Karasuma Oji in School Rumble. Step 2: Konishi Hiroki and Takahashi Hiroki were together in School Rumble, as Karasuma and Harima, respectively. Step 3: Takahashi Hiroki was Control in Corrector Yui. Step 4: Mitsuishi Kotono was Freeze in Corrector Yui. Step 5: Mitsuishi Kotono was Maki in CCS. Step 6: Sakura Tange was Sakura in CCS. I think this game could work out really well. The person answering should probably list out steps though to make it easier to follow (although probably not necessarily in as much detail as I did). I think what should qualify as "one step" is the following -- From one voice actor to the "counterpart" in the other language of the same character, from one voice actor to another that starred in the same series (same language track), and different roles of a single voice actor. I'm not sure about restrictions...someone could either restrict it to the number of links they got it to or place no restriction. We could possibly keep it open for a certain amt. of time to see who can do it in the least number of links, or just continue regardless as long as a link is established, regardless of how many steps it took. Anyway, for now, I think we should keep it unrestricted, and keep the game running continuously one after the other with no "least amt. of links = win" or anything like that (someone who finds a valid link can continue with theirs, etc.), and keep it as English Voice Actor & seiyuu, because that makes it all the more exciting and challenging. Anyway, to keep the game rolling along...how about, Caitlin Glass and Mai Hashimoto? |
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undeadben
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Nice! Although you would have had an easier time if you went with Fruits Basket instead of School Rumble to start. It would go something like Eric Vale and Aya Hisakawa both voice Yuki in Furuba, Aya Hisakawa was Kerberos in Cardcaptor Sakura with Sakura Tange voicing Sakura. But I like listing the steps like you did, it makes it easier to follow the connections than one long sentence or paragraph.
Ok, I think you're right for now we'll just keep it going linking an English VAs and a Japanese Seiyuu, and just keep the game going. If we hit any snags we can just change things as we go.
Ok, how's this: 0. Mai Mashimoto was or is in Code-E as Chinami Ebihara 1. Halko Momoi plays Keiko Komatsuna in Code-E 2. Halko Momoi Plays Komugi Nakahara and Michiko Neya plays Runa Tokisaka in Nurse Witch Komugi 3. Michiko Neya plays Hiromi Anzai and Chiwa Saito plays Hazuki in Moon Phase 4. Chiwa Saito plays Kaori Izumi and Eri Sendai plays Ayumu Oume in Best Student Council 5. Eri Sendai and Caitlin Glass both play Triela in Gunslinger Girl, in their respective languages. And the next one up is J. Shannon Weaver and Momoko Saito. |
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abunai
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0. J. Shannon Weaver dubs Amano Ginji in Getbackers 1. Tobita Nobuo voices Akabane Kurodo in Getbackers 2. Tobita Nobuo voices Ashley Links in Solty Rei 3. Saito Momoko voices Solty Revant in Solty Rei Okay, now link Saito Momoko to Hiramatsu Akiko, please. Should be easy, but can you do it in no more than four stages (including the zero-stage)? - abunai . |
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Jaebird
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0. Saito Momoko voices Solty in Solty Rei 1. Nakata (George/Hiroshi) voices Roy in Solty Rei 2. Nakata (George/Hiroshi) voices Giroro in Sgt. Frog 3. Hiramatsu Akiko voiced Aki Hinata in Sgt. Frog Is that right? |
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Jaebird
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If that works, then link Hiramatsu Akiko to Jonathan Fahn.
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undeadben
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0. Jonathan Fahn voiced Shikaku Nara in the English dub of Naruto 1. Hiroshi Yanaka voiced Shikaku Nara in Naruto 2. Hiroshi Yanka played Sora and Akiko Hiramatsu played BT in .hack//SIGN Ok, someone try this one: Stephanie Young and Yuko Goto. Last edited by undeadben on Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:40 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Subaru19
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Actually the way I was thinking of doing it was Hoffman played Miaka in Fushigi Yuugi along with Wendy Lee who played Yui Wendy Lee played Fay Valentine and so did Megumi Hayashibara. Guess there's more than one way to skin a cat. (But maybe that's more than three steps?) |
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undeadben
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Yeah, there are probably a lot of other ways in any number of steps to do it, but I think that it's neat that we can all come up with different ways of connecting the actors. For me it was easier to start on the seiyuu side because I know Ranma 1/2 really well and I am a big fan of Kikuko Inoue, and by association also know most of the role's she's played and some of names of the English VAs that have voiced the same parts. So for me Megumi Hayashibara to Kikuko Inoue to Bridget Hoffman was pretty easy. However if I had tried going through English VA's first it probably would have taken me a while to make connections. I didn't know that Bridget Hoffman was even in Fuushigi Yuugi much less that Wendy Lee was in it too. I never heard the dub for that when I had it and so didn't pay attention to who played who.\ frentymon's game, Caitlin Glass and Mai Hashimoto, it was a bit harder for me. I had to look up both actresses but once I saw the names Eri Sendai and Halko Momoi I knew the connection would be easier. |
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