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meiam
Joined: 23 Jun 2013
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 12:02 pm |
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/spitake
I'm sorry, what? Bob Skylum? BOB Skylum?! Thats the Darth Vader stand in, Bob?
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Glordit
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 12:03 pm |
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The series was so frustrating.
There was far too many ideas and too little time to work through them all.
- FF7 references galore.
- Binary Domain type robots.
- A whole year passes, yet it feels like the same day. There's no indication of time passing and it happens a few times in the show.
- The Big Bad AI being the mastermind?
- People switching sides so much that you get whiplash in the last couple of episodes.
- Rys playing this tragic heroine until she turns into a mass murderer. Then everyone must feel sorry for her because she shot Mary, not because she was killing innocent people.
- Rys basically being a child because Jacob wasn't romantically interested in her.
- Phil becomes a martyr but somehow still manages to survive.
- Never got a full explanation on what L-Zone really is/was. It was casually mentioned that they wanted to make the moon "green".
- Moon chains where way cooler than the good guys, and probably the best thing about the show.
There was so much going on and many things where just left hanging. The biggest offender is how they time skipped, and you didn't even know it happened.
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Maleko Ai
Joined: 06 May 2018
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 12:44 pm |
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It had to be from the creator of the worst season of Psycho-Pass. A waste of time.
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bassgs435
Joined: 21 Mar 2015
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 1:43 pm |
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| Maleko Ai wrote: | | It had to be from the creator of the worst season of Psycho-Pass. A waste of time. |
And the creator of Heroic Age, Fafner in the Azure and Mardoc Scramble. Man is good, and nothing will change my mind
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Kiwi93
Joined: 08 Dec 2022
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 1:51 pm |
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For how long this was in production I thought it would be better, not saying it was bad overall but the story just felt inconsistent at times.
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Glordit
Joined: 11 Sep 2020
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 2:18 pm |
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| Kiwi93 wrote: | | For how long this was in production I thought it would be better, not saying it was bad overall but the story just felt inconsistent at times. |
Announced in 2022 with an expected release window of 2024, it was then delayed until 2025. So, it could have been in production for over 3 years.
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Animegomaniac
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 2:57 pm |
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I really enjoyed the first episode but the time skips, the time skipping, the flashbacks and the inconsequential characterizations is making this a hard one to swallow. I can say this is a mash up of several Paul Verhoven sci fi movies but it's like they took the lesser part of each.
It's the teen drama and PTSD angst of Starship Troopers combined with Total Recall's Mars rebellion and the shady body experimentation from Robocop.
Wait a minute, they're all the instigating parts of each story, what are the odds...
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Tanteikingdomkey
Joined: 03 Sep 2008
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:01 pm |
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&$@!~ Tow Ubukata in his hack writing, wife beating $*!
How does this guy still get work as a writer for anime let alone high budget anime.
He has always at best been a knock off of gen urobuchi. If this does not prove that he shouldnt be given creative control I don't know what will
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MFrontier
Joined: 13 Apr 2014
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:42 pm |
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Honestly this is the first positive review of Moonrise I've seen online.
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bassgs435
Joined: 21 Mar 2015
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 3:09 am |
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| Tanteikingdomkey wrote: | | &$@!~ Tow Ubukata in his hack writing, wife beating $*!
How does this guy still get work as a writer for anime let alone high budget anime.
He has always at best been a knock off of gen urobuchi. If this does not prove that he shouldnt be given creative control I don't know what will |
He was writing before Urobuchi. And his tales are wuite different to Gen’d. Please watch more of his shows: Mardok Scramble, Heroic Age and Fafner in the Azure are strong reccomendations
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jr240483
Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 4:51 am |
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| bassgs435 wrote: | | Maleko Ai wrote: | | It had to be from the creator of the worst season of Psycho-Pass. A waste of time. |
And the creator of Heroic Age, Fafner in the Azure and Mardoc Scramble. Man is good, and nothing will change my mind |
agreed. and there are people who liked that season of psycho pass!
to be frank, if toonami originals of the past like a ninja kamui, IGPX, princess fena or others had this level of support, then they wouldnt have come out as mediocre disappointments in the end of their runs!
at least they learned their lesson with these failures and used what they learned to improve when it came to the production of lazurus!
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Zhou-BR
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 10:31 am |
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I'm not much of an Ubukata fan myself (I enjoyed the latter seasons of Psycho-Pass and its last two movies, as well as GitS: Arise and its movie sequel, but I really didn't care for Mardock Scramble and I'm struggling with Bye Bye, Earth's pretentiousness), but I don't think it's fair to blame him for this show's writing when he only came up with the basic concept and every single script is credited to director Masashi Koizuka himself, with Tomomi Kawaguchi as a co-writer on the last 5 episodes.
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Eilavel
Joined: 16 Apr 2024
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 11:52 am |
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| Zhou-BR wrote: | | ...but I don't think it's fair to blame him for this show's writing when he only came up with the basic concept and every single script is credited to director Masashi Koizuka himself, with Tomomi Kawaguchi as a co-writer on the last 5 episodes. |
Thats really interesting. This seems to be Koizukas only writing credit that I can see, storybarding and directing has probably had some similar involvement but this may explain a lot.
Ubukata has produced some awful material, but also some pretty fun stuff. Overall thats preferable for me to being consistently mid, though his bad stuff is concentrated in the more recent side of his career.
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Hal14
Joined: 01 Apr 2018
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 11:58 am |
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| Zhou-BR wrote: | | I'm not much of an Ubukata fan myself (I enjoyed the latter seasons of Psycho-Pass and its last two movies, as well as GitS: Arise and is movie sequel, but I really didn't care for Mardock Scramble and I'm struggling with Bye Bye, Earth's pretentiousness), but I don't think it's fair to blame him for this show's writing when he only came up with the basic concept and every single script is credited to director Masashi Koizuka himself, with Tomomi Kawaguchi as a co-writer on the last 5 episodes. |
From what i've seen online, Ubakata wrote the novel this is based on. Even if i hadn't learned that i would still recognise his writing from plot developments/twists that were also present in pscho-pass. Except psycho-pass did far more to setup those developments than moonrise; best example of this would be the Evil AI (that regulates all citizens) hijacking a MCs gun to shoot someone. P-pass set this twist up while here the story never bothers to discuss the AI's abilities or connection to that wierd transforming metal, or even the metal itself, etc.
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Martin G.
Joined: 22 Feb 2014
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Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 3:44 am |
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I'm thankful Netflix is financing such destinct genre anime series which feels like the classic old school scifi anime from the 80s and the 90s that introduced me to the medium. Call me undemanding but I take these anime remixes of Hollywood sci-fi movie tropes over all the isekai, light novel adaptation with ridiculous long names and fighting shonen series we are bombarded with nowadays in a heartbeat. No one accused Bubblegum Crisis of originality or masterful story telling craft but it still is seen as a classic.
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