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Hiro94



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:40 am Reply with quote
I try not to buy my Anime from independant sellers on Amazon anymore but recently i bought a Case Closed set from Shawnek on their and i heard he has ties to RightStuff.com
So by buying from him am i buying it from RightStuff basically?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:47 am Reply with quote
Shawnek is the president of RightStuf, so yeah, it's basically RightStuf's Amazon account.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:16 am Reply with quote
Shawnek is an independent seller on Amazon in the way that every other seller is. He, or perhaps a proxy actually doing some of the legwork, can list items that free himself from the legalities and restrictions of being the owner of the retail business. I think there may be some ethical concerns to actually running a commercial site and freelance sales on the side, but whatever. There are some interesting things to note of the pricing of Shawnek's versus RightStuf's items. For example take a look at this item being sold on RightStuf's site
http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/YawI7DhRh1TP82kBdL/browse/item/81605/4/0/0
and take a look at the same item being sold by Shawnek on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B001GT9DT8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
See the price difference? He'd make more of a profit by selling it on Amazon, but it's still drastically lower than what everyone else is asking for it.
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zanarkand princess



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:29 am Reply with quote
I've always wondered what the deal was with him having an amazon marketplace account, (or rightstuf having an amazon account) but I have purchased from it without issue. It's basically rightstuf, you're going to get your purchase.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:47 pm Reply with quote
I purchased a couple of items from shawnek on Amazon at lower prices than they were on the TRSI site, only thing is no free shipping option so I had to figure the shipping cost into the deal. The key thing is that either way they are selling legit merchandise so there's no reason to feel guilty. From looking at his storefront on Amazon it seems to be mostly older titles that aren't really moving well from the TRSI site so I think it's just a matter of giving himself another avenue to sell products.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:14 pm Reply with quote
Hmm, I don't know ... personally I think the ShawneK storefront on Amazon.com is actually a cover operation for a vast, worldwide conspiracy bent on galactic domination...

...but perhaps I've said too much??? Wink
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luffypirate



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:11 am Reply with quote
I'm sure your money will go right back into RightStuf. Pre-owned stuff is a definite no. I don't think he offers anything like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:37 am Reply with quote
If you buy from Shawnek on Amazon, you'll get brand-new items, with TRSI packing slips (marked 'ebay sales', oddly enough.) As such, I've always thought of the Amazon account as something kind of like the Rightstuf Outlet Store. It's stocked with stuff that isn't/didn't really sell in the main store, and the return policy's different, but you get the same quality of service you'd expect from the main store.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:15 pm Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:
Hmm, I don't know ... personally I think the ShawneK storefront on Amazon.com is actually a cover operation for a vast, worldwide conspiracy bent on galactic domination...

...but perhaps I've said too much??? Wink


Hmm...yes I've heard rumors of this "Alan Parson's Project" aka "Operation Wang Chung." Razz
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Regannator



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:50 pm Reply with quote
Can I ask something? Are you buying crap JUST to support the industry?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:42 pm Reply with quote
Well, there's other reasons to own. Supporting the industry, is usually not at the top of peoples lists. Most commonly it's usually the "Because I wantz' the precious" reasoning. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:07 pm Reply with quote
Kruszer wrote:
Well, there's other reasons to own. Supporting the industry, is usually not at the top of peoples lists. Most commonly it's usually the "Because I wantz' the precious" reasoning. Laughing

I'm never one to tell people what to do with their money. Hell, if you want to spend 2 million dollars building a batcave movie theater, more power to you. Send me an invite. But I also like to think I can have an opinion: Spending money just to support the business is the dumbest s**t ever.

Movies, shows, books, music, videogames, so on and so forth - they are entertainment, serving to entertain the customer. NOT the man in the suit who issues it out - although they too a free to play the role of the customer in search of entertainment. Anything else is just misguided attempts at justification. What if Shawnek was just another guy - not affiliated with any houses in the industry? And his prices happen to be ten dollars less than at retailers? Are you gonna spend ten bucks more just because of that? One grain does not equate to a desert.

There are a million and one charity organizations that can put those ten dollars to considerably better use. Just sayin'. You're the customer, it's your money. Hence, put yourself first, business second. In this world, in this economy, you can't afford less. And hell, if a business goes under, I can godamn guarantee you that your extra ten dollars wouldn't have made much of a damn difference to begin with. It costs millions - even billions - to sink a company like Funimation. These aren't little independent stores downtown that need local support. They have plenty of other options for income.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 am Reply with quote
I would venture that most people consider their duty to support the industry met the same way I do. By buying from the company that licensed the show you love and want to own instead of downloading it from the internet pirates or waiting for it to end up on ebay or the sales bins. Ensuring that the titles are legally successful should not be your only reason you buy them. Eventually you'd be on an episode of Hoarders. That would be idiotic.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:19 am Reply with quote
Regannator wrote:
Kruszer wrote:
Well, there's other reasons to own. Supporting the industry, is usually not at the top of peoples lists. Most commonly it's usually the "Because I wantz' the precious" reasoning. Laughing

I'm never one to tell people what to do with their money. Hell, if you want to spend 2 million dollars building a batcave movie theater, more power to you. Send me an invite. But I also like to think I can have an opinion: Spending money just to support the business is the dumbest s**t ever.

Movies, shows, books, music, videogames, so on and so forth - they are entertainment, serving to entertain the customer. NOT the man in the suit who issues it out - although they too a free to play the role of the customer in search of entertainment. Anything else is just misguided attempts at justification. What if Shawnek was just another guy - not affiliated with any houses in the industry? And his prices happen to be ten dollars less than at retailers? Are you gonna spend ten bucks more just because of that? One grain does not equate to a desert.

There are a million and one charity organizations that can put those ten dollars to considerably better use. Just sayin'. You're the customer, it's your money. Hence, put yourself first, business second. In this world, in this economy, you can't afford less. And hell, if a business goes under, I can godamn guarantee you that your extra ten dollars wouldn't have made much of a damn difference to begin with. It costs millions - even billions - to sink a company like Funimation. These aren't little independent stores downtown that need local support. They have plenty of other options for income.


To be fair unlinke most media, anime fans tend to take their anime more personal then anything else. These forums can tell you that easily. The reason why many say to support the industry is because for a few reasons that I will list.

It's littered with bootlegs/piracy/torrents. The people who make these shows do not necessarily make all that much especially in Japan. So every little give back in support for your love of what ever anime you enjoy.

Many companies are going out of business or going bankrupt. A lot of the smaller anime licence holders have just gone away or just barley afloat. So they need any help as much as possible. Competition is good so having 2 main players in the industry really is not good for consumers.

Really I just dont see what is wrong with giving money to something that you enjoy. If you like a particular series of a show, a particular band and want more of it or just over all enjoy it, I dont see a problem with supporting those that have put a lot of effort into making it as great as it is.

Also You really should read up on how awful the creators of these anime shows you love so much get screwed over and make just enough to survive. It may really change your opinion.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:21 am Reply with quote
Regannator wrote:
Can I ask something? Are you buying crap JUST to support the industry?

Can I ask something? Are you new to anime or just to the ANN forums? Laughing

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Spending money just to support the business is the dumbest s**t ever.

I agree. And I don't think OP is implying s/he wants to do this. Buying products you want is all you need to do to support the business; you don't need to charity-buy. That said, how you do or don't spend your money on a product, in any industry but especially in an industry like the anime industry, is feedback to the creators--the whole voting with your dollars thing, ya know. I don't have anything against the second-hand market, but it's undeniable that such exchanges do pretty much nothing for the industry. Buying bootlegs, IMO, is just terrible (unless you are really new to anime and don't know what they are or don't know how to spot them)--you might as well just torrent something and save your money if you're going to buy a bootleg. OP's concerns are valid, as amazon marketplace and ebay especially are full of bootleg products.

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What if Shawnek was just another guy - not affiliated with any houses in the industry? And his prices happen to be ten dollars less than at retailers? Are you gonna spend ten bucks more just because of that?

If they're both selling the same legit product, new, then no I'm gonna buy the cheaper one. If the cheaper one is used, then I might buy used. If the cheaper one is a bootleg then no way am I buying it.
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