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Toriko36
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This is a major reason why I (and many of my friends/peers) haven't bought anything from DiscoTek. I am considered an older fan (late 20's) and I remember when titles like these were available on VHS and I even bought allot of these when Manga Ent. used to have the rights to them. But it's June, 2014 and I can't justify buying DVD's anymore. All Anime I buy is now on Blu-Ray, even the much older re-releases like Patlabor, Ninja Scroll, Akira, S.E. Lain and when Funi releases the old Sunrise/Bandai titles I will be buying all of those on Blu-Ray. I really think they're leaving allot of money on the table because if they could adopt the Blu-Ray/DVD combo releases, I feel that they would bring in allot more customers. |
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ActionJacksin
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You guys have to understand that Discotek is a very small company, and that blu-ray authoring and replication is still an expensive venture for a company of their size.
The only blu-ray titles they seem to pump out are one they fully know they can make some revenue on, like their upcoming Cagliostro release. That, or could be a licensor decision. |
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Toriko36
Posts: 205 Location: Hoboken, NJ |
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I totally get it and I completely understand. I'm just simply expressing my opinion on the matter of physical media, which I hate to say is a dying form of media especially DVD's. If they could, which I'm sure they'r e trying to work on obtaining the BD/DVD combo packs, they probably could gain some of the BD market share. I will be ordering the BD of Cagliostro without a doubt and maybe the sales will be strong enough for them to warrant more future BD releases. |
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Beltane70
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It's good to see that more people will be able to enjoy Orguss. Since I already own the ImaginAsian release, I won't be buying this set.
Just being a bit nitpicky here, but technically, only Macross is an SDF series, the other two are simply Super Dimension series. |
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Chrno2
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I never thought I'd see this series mentioned again. Man this takes me back to the old anime clubs around NYC in the 80's. It was their first series up on the schedule, L-Gaim before lunch, something new and to finish off the day Gundam-Z. I do remember hearing that this was released in the states...was it US Renditions? I know 02 was released here. Well, if the first Orguss does well in sales then maybe Orguss:02 will be up next so keep your fingers crossed. Now can anyone tell me if this was a precursor to Macross or was that just what some believed and it wasn't true?
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MaxSterling
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Take a look make sure to pause and set to 720p first https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6CUb7MJkqM |
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Cptn_Taylor
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Of course well remastered material on blu-ray will look superior to dvd. The thing is, are you (and all the other fans) prepared to spend 600 $ on Orguss if Discotek took the challenge ? |
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Agent355
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This sounds interesting. I hate to sound really greedy, but why doesn't Discotek ever make their licenses available via legal streaming?
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Wrangler
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Woooooooah!!!!!!! Finally going see the final episodes of the series!!! YAY!!!!
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GATSU
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Toriko: What part of, "The show already bombed with ImaginAsian" do you not understand? And this was before Blu-Ray. No one, outside of people who like 80s mecha anime, will buy it now. And the only Sunrise titles FUNi has rescued are those made in the 90s with their own dubs.
Chrno: Yeah, U.S. Renditions got it. I wonder if the reason Orguss 2 didn't get picked up was 'cus it might still be tied up with Manga. |
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Bamble
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It's not a completely absurd notion. From a 2007 interview with Justin Sevakis at MAHQ regarding the ImaginAsian DVD-Rs: "Sales have been quite strong. We were pleasantly surprised with the number of preorders, and that was before any actual marketing." The whole interview is worth a read, and as far as it was known, the titles sold as much as was expected. Maybe not a mega-success, but by no reasonable definition does it seem any of them "bombed". As I understood it, the swift cancellation of the TMS Anime Classics program was more to do with the questionable dealings of Titlematch, who were physically responsible for the discs, and subsequently ImaginAsian themselves. More specifically, Titlematch went into something of a meltdown as multiple executives left the company, and ImaginAsian allegedly had issues with regard payment of employees. |
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GATSU
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Bamble: Well, ok, fine, then. That's good to know. But I still don't see Orguss being popular enough to merit a Blu-Ray release here. Nor, as others have requested, do I see Remi being rescued like the other two shows.
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GeorgeC
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There was a lot of chatter about quality control and disc rot issues with the DVD-R releases of the licensed ImaginAsian titles, too.
It got to a point that many people didn't want to take chances on buying a disc that wouldn't play on their DVD players... You can't blame all the disc issues on your players, guys! There are poorly mastered discs as well as BADLY manufactured media, period. DVD-R is an unreliable, very unstable format as anybody who's done a lot of personal disc-recording and authoring on their computers knows. I've had a lot of discs rot well within 5 years because of unstable media... it's a hit-and-miss game with DVD-R's. I DO NOT trust the media as a long-term storage archive. Tape and magnetic drives are better future hardware compatibility issues aside. (Yeah, there's that annoying tendency of hard drives changing connection schemes every 5- 7 years it seems. We've gone from SCSI to IDE to SATA and earlier connections and that's not counting the subdivisions within those connector types...) I have VHS tapes that are now 2 decades that have held up better than DVD-R's I recorded less than 5 years ago! There are supposedly much better quality DVD-R's out there and some talk that some BD-R labels are better but for now I would still stick to pressed discs! I am not a huge fan of MOD, period... There's been some stuff put out through Studio Archive (MOD) programs that I just won't get (despite pleasant memories of these TV programs and movies) because of the DVD-R issues. *************** As far as Blu ray anime is concerned, the lack of older title support is partly about the more expensive protection schemes on BD. The protection schemes constantly change on BD all the time which is why getting a BD player that is firmware-upgradeable is a must. If you can't upgrade the player firmware and the manufacturer support isn't there, you could be stuck with a future doorstop as far as future BD video titles are concerned. I think the BD protection scheme is why a lot of the system OS changes on the PS3 occur! They're trying to keep BD from being bootlegged as often and as easily as DVD was/still is... (Obviously isn't 100% effective because BD titles get bootlegged constantly, too...) This doesn't seem to help so much since A) disc sales are way down and Blu ray has not made up for the DVD sales decreases; B) we're increasingly moving away from physical media across all entertainment (music/audio, video), PERIOD; and C) so much anime is being subtitled/released direct to the Net within days of broadcast... The anime market is supposedly 25% of what it was 10 years ago in the US now (at least)... I wouldn't get into the market as a distributor unless I had plenty of cash and really knew what I was doing! I don't think we have even 1/4 as many companies releasing anime regularly in the US now as there were 10 years ago, either... |
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NJ_
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They actually do depending on the licensor and since Orguss is a TMS show, it might hit Hulu sometime after it's release like Lupin Part 1 & Green Vs. Red did. As for those complaining about no Blu-ray, this should make you happy...or not. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=871461816216247&id=147168055312297
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DangerMouse
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Cool pickup.
That would be great if they could rescue that too. |
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