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NEWS: Manga With Biggest 1st Printings from Kodansha, Shogakukan, Shueisha: 2020-2021




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Rob19ny



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:49 pm Reply with quote
SnK at #1 makes sense especially with the manga ending next month (From the end of March).

OP over KnY. Thank goodness.

JK at #3 with the help of the anime.

Rurouni Kenshin still doing numbers with no anime or live action movie (delayed due to Covid), but people might have still got it due to the movies. ANN doesn't even post the ranking no more, but its clear Hokkaido is still on fire.
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ThatMoonGuy



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It's a good surprise to see World Trigger there. I really think that if the hiatus hadn't happened and Ashihara-sensei remained in Jump, that manga would be among the three biggest in the magazine right now.

Rob19ny wrote:
OP over KnY. Thank goodness.


Keep in mind this was likely intentional as vol. 23 suffered from severe stock issues while no OP volume in the past couple years has sold anything more than 2 million copies. They likely just didn't want KnY to oversell One Piece.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:45 pm Reply with quote
Rob19ny wrote:

Rurouni Kenshin still doing numbers with no anime or live action movie (delayed due to Covid), but people might have still got it due to the movies. ANN doesn't even post the ranking no more, but its clear Hokkaido is still on fire.


They delayed the movies again? Thought they were meant to premiere in the next few months as the first delay was due to Emi Takei's pregnancy and the second due to the social distancing from last year.
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ThatMoonGuy wrote:
It's a good surprise to see World Trigger there. I really think that if the hiatus hadn't happened and Ashihara-sensei remained in Jump, that manga would be among the three biggest in the magazine right now.


I remember being surprised about season 2 and season 3 happening, but I guess it makes sense now. I didn't realize Trigger was still big in Japan.
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Reply with quote
ThatMoonGuy wrote:
Rob19ny wrote:
OP over KnY. Thank goodness.


Keep in mind this was likely intentional as vol. 23 suffered from severe stock issues while no OP volume in the past couple years has sold anything more than 2 million copies. They likely just didn't want KnY to oversell One Piece.


They're tied on this list, and this is just for the first printing.
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Daaamn, Mystery to iunakare anime when? (Actually, we're probably more likely to get some sort of live action adaption, but it would be nice to have something nicely animated!)
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KarlFranz



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Shay Guy wrote:
ThatMoonGuy wrote:
Rob19ny wrote:
OP over KnY. Thank goodness.


Keep in mind this was likely intentional as vol. 23 suffered from severe stock issues while no OP volume in the past couple years has sold anything more than 2 million copies. They likely just didn't want KnY to oversell One Piece.


They're tied on this list, and this is just for the first printing.

That's the point. OP hold the record for the highest first print which Jump certainly don't want any other series to break. All of KnY volume sold more than 4 mil copies while OP could barely move more than 2 mil. And Jump clearly know that the initial print for KnY wasn't enough so they already prepare the re-print before they run out. All of that showed Jump was trying to keep OP record.
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MasterKingJC



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:54 pm Reply with quote
KarlFranz wrote:

That's the point. OP hold the record for the highest first print which Jump certainly don't want any other series to break. All of KnY volume sold more than 4 mil copies while OP could barely move more than 2 mil. And Jump clearly know that the initial print for KnY wasn't enough so they already prepare the re-print before they run out. All of that showed Jump was trying to keep OP record.

Or maybe other factors like a global pandemic affected the number of printings they could make.
It's not a conspiracy, dude.
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:05 pm Reply with quote
KarlFranz wrote:
OP hold the record for the highest first print which Jump certainly don't want any other series to break. [...] All of that showed Jump was trying to keep OP record.


I find it utterly unfathomable why Jump would have any such aims.
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KarlFranz



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MasterKingJC wrote:
KarlFranz wrote:

That's the point. OP hold the record for the highest first print which Jump certainly don't want any other series to break. All of KnY volume sold more than 4 mil copies while OP could barely move more than 2 mil. And Jump clearly know that the initial print for KnY wasn't enough so they already prepare the re-print before they run out. All of that showed Jump was trying to keep OP record.

Or maybe other factors like a global pandemic affected the number of printings they could make.
It's not a conspiracy, dude.


KnY sold 4 mil per volume during the pandemic and Jump has been printing those number even during the pandemic. Also how is the pandemic affect how many printers they can run or how many copies they could printed. The most suspected aspect is the number of print they choose, literally just below OP.
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KarlFranz



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Shay Guy wrote:
KarlFranz wrote:
OP hold the record for the highest first print which Jump certainly don't want any other series to break. [...] All of that showed Jump was trying to keep OP record.


I find it utterly unfathomable why Jump would have any such aims.


From a marketing stand point, it make sense for they to try to keep OP image since it is and would still be Jump flatship series for many more years to come while KnY already ended. Plus this is one of the few record that Jump can control.
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cchigu



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:25 am Reply with quote
Nice one, Shueisha! OP supremacy <3
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Rob19ny wrote:

OP over KnY. Thank goodness.

KnY is #1, though. The 3.2M number is without the limited edition, as the full initial print for volume 23 (including LE) had already been unveiled a few months back, even reported by ann itself:
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-11-24/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-manga-final-volume-does-not-add-new-epilogue-chapter/.166683

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The 23rd volume alone will have an initial run of 3.95 million copies.


Sooo...yeah.
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SWED



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:29 am Reply with quote
KarlFranz wrote:
MasterKingJC wrote:
KarlFranz wrote:

That's the point. OP hold the record for the highest first print which Jump certainly don't want any other series to break. All of KnY volume sold more than 4 mil copies while OP could barely move more than 2 mil. And Jump clearly know that the initial print for KnY wasn't enough so they already prepare the re-print before they run out. All of that showed Jump was trying to keep OP record.

Or maybe other factors like a global pandemic affected the number of printings they could make.
It's not a conspiracy, dude.


KnY sold 4 mil per volume during the pandemic and Jump has been printing those number even during the pandemic. Also how is the pandemic affect how many printers they can run or how many copies they could printed. The most suspected aspect is the number of print they choose, literally just below OP.


Its 1st printing. Its a pandemic. KnY didn't sell 4m copies for every volume during pandemic. Only sold 2 of them like that during 2020 oricon data sales.
One Piece still holds the record for 4.05 1st printing. So even if KnY is above 3.2m it wouldnt change anything.
You could make an exception for 23 since thats the last volume, but alas I think they just didn't expect it to blow up like that. End of 2020 had 2 volumes of KnY above 4m. That was before 23 came out. For 1st printing you always go conservative. Just because 2 volumes sold for 4m across a year doesnt mean you should create 1st printings for 4m+..
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simona.com



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Spy x Family 4th tie with Kingdom even before having an anime…
my hunch is, it may as well be the next blockbuster after it goes on air.
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