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darkchibi07
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Episode 9......spoiler[Emotions are seriously running high here. Makoto's condition is seriously worsening as she began to regress backwards to an almost child-like state. Amano pretty much briefed Yuuichi about the fox legend that resides on the hill. Yuuichi figured out that Makoto is that fox and also the same fox he took care of in the past.
] Dammit! I don't know if I'll be able to handle the next episode! That BGM in the next episode preview didn't make it better. spoiler[And the fact Makoto wants Yuuichi to marry her....oh shit, man!] |
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godakame
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About that legend, spoiler[is that a real Japanese legend, or one just made up in the world of Kanon? As I recall from another anime, Inukami, Youko is the name of over-powered fox girl. Though I guess it could be a coincidence.] Anyway spoiler[I had to break out the tissue box for this episode. Had to wipe away some streams of sadness. ] |
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Mini Jesus
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I'm not sure what to say about episode 9...We're finally starting to get to the meat of the series, and I knew it wasn't going to be all fun and games, but it's still so sad.
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hentai4me
 Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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It was pretty sad, spoiler[the whole regression thing...but ater Saikano and what happens with Chise it's just not as powerful with Makoto.]
What I'm more interested in is the others...now that we know that magical wierdness can and does happen I am re-assessin my thoughts. Mai: spoiler[Initially I thought she was delusional or something (cue troubled past/tragedy etc) and that the ghosts weren't real...but now I'm not so sure. I don't see her as a real competition for being Yuuichi's girl at the end(if that's where this goes)] Natsuki: spoiler[Still not really sure...I think she's likely to be the girl he finally ends up with but more as a kind of cliche 'Ah! I realis now I loved you all along' thing...] Ayu: spoiler[Dead girl reincarnated...perhaps related to Mai if this is so(ghosts and all). She doesn't seem to know about modern things (cell phones etc) and doesn't seem to have a real home or do anything but look for whaeve she lost. Perhaps she knew Yuuichi from before and died and has come back because she really loved him. I see this ending like Makoto, with her dying or dissapearing or something.] Of course this is all just speculation and I've no idea whats with Shiori...what do you think? |
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abunai
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Earlier in this thread, I more than hinted that I was slightly disappointed with Kanon (2006) as compared to its predecessor. Having seen more episodes, I am a great deal more positive now. My original complaint (that the new anime presumes too much familiarity with the story on the part of the viewers, at least to begin with), still stands. But I have been won over by the new version's elegant and soulful storytelling style.
The new series is, in many ways, more richly detailed than the original. In particular, one character that has received much more attention this time round is Minase Akiko, played (as before) by Minaguchi Yuko. Where Akiko's rôle was somewhat understated in the original anime, the new series has brought her to the forefront -- and a well-deserved place it is, for she is a wonderful character. At once ditzy and deep, she is in many ways a breaker of clichés. Minaguchi Yuko is no stranger to maternal rôles, but in this character, she has found a fine line between the traditionally passive maternal dynamic, and the more active dynamic of a younger female character. I think it works very well, and it's clear that the character develops well as a result of her skilled interpretation. - abunai |
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Zalis116
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You certainly feel the different pacing of Kanon 06 in episode 9...I was expecting spoiler[Makoto to actually "go away"], but instead we got a much more dragged-out and painful version of the events that show up in episode 10 or so of Kanon '02. Episode 10 of this series promises to be good as well.
Abunai also raises a good point--Akiko was pretty much a non-factor in '02 spoiler[until she gets injured towards the end and causes Nayuki to see "the sign" at the hospital], but it's nice to see her playing a more active role with so much caring and comedic value.
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selenta
 Subscriber Posts: 1774 Location: Seattle, WA |
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I don't know if it's just me who thinks this strongly about it, but watching characters go through what spoiler[Makoto is going through, with her regression into a more mentally underdeveloped state to be absolutely heartbreaking. I've seen my share of sad moments, and I've certainly shed more than my masculine share of tears, but this is different. I feel as if part of me dies inside watching these characters lose their humanity, their self sufficience, their memory, and bodily functions; it's heartbreaking to me in a different and more fundamental way than most other things are. I haven't cried yet, I just feel hollow inside and ache as I watch Makoto live out the final moments of her life with the one she loves while she is unable to read or even feed herself; all the while regressing farther and farther into a childish state. ] I went through this same problem in Utawarerumono with spoiler[Kuuya] a few months ago, and I still haven't gotten over it, despite the incredibly short screen time that was devoted to it.
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frentymon
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I haven't seen Episodes 8 or 9 of Kanon 2006, but from what I remember from watching Kanon 2002, Makoto's arc had the least impact on me. Not to say that it wasn't tragic or sad, but the others are even worse.
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selenta
Subscriber Posts: 1774 Location: Seattle, WA |
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... jesus christ  I'm going to try and ignore thinking about your comment too much, but the only story/circumstance that bothered me on a similar (different) level was hearing about the twins from BL: TSR (er.... BL: TSB  ). I honestly am drawing a blank on what could be more sad, maybe I just have different priorities than most people, or maybe this is why I watch anime instead of writing it. 
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ryokoalways
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I like that fact that they let the events speak for themselves as much as possible. Too many animes overly dramatize events to bring out its effect. Kanon is subtle about it, and while it doesnt immediately hit me upside the head (which I dont think is that effective in the greater picture), it definitely feels more powerful as the show progresses.
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darkchibi07
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Episode 10, let's just say the subtly works wonders. spoiler[And DON'T expect some "wrist-slashing", overly depressing ending on this one because that's not what they're trying to convey. And that message was the sign of hopefulness. All those final moments with Makoto were definitely tear-jerking (especially when she tried to pronounce Yuuichi's name). And we get to see some of Yuuichi's true personality which I have to say he certainly knows how to adapt.]
Seriously damn good stuff! 
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chrisb
 Subscriber Posts: 768 Location: USA |
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Am I the only one who feels the old Kanon was alot more emotionally effecting?I don't know, something about Yuuichi's new voice bothers me, I loved the old voice. I could also watch the old series with some people who weren't anime fans and they enjoy it while this series I don't feel comfortable showing non anime fans.
Plus this new series focuses too much on Moe-ness while the old series felt like it relied more on realism and atmosphere. I just liked how the old series was more subtle in all the relationships. Plus I'm not a big fan of all the comedy they added in. The music in the old series is also one of my favorites and I like the PC game soundtrack but they reuse way too many of the same tracks while the old series had 2 OSTs and with way more episodes will this new series run out of tracks faster? Not to say I'm not enjoying this new series. The art is wonderful but everyone else I've talked to enjoys this series a lot more and I was wondering if I'm the minority. |
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omar235
 Posts: 1572 Location: Florida, Jacksonvile |
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spoiler[Wow...the whole mood they set up DID seem like there was going to be a sad ending but even though it was emotional it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. Every time she tried to say his name I got more and more choked up, I guess its the fact that the characters grow on you cause even though it was a happying ending and that I have seen more depressing endings, this show manages to gets my eyes all watered up. Anyways a beatiful episode to wrap up Makotos story.]
Just was wondering if there were any wrist-slashing endings in this anime? |
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chrisb
Subscriber Posts: 768 Location: USA |
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LOL there's an ALMOST wrist-slashy part in the series, spoiler[it involves Shiori of all people.] but if you mean totally emo arc finale then spoiler[no, they usually end well but I think some end bittersweetly.]
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darkchibi07
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Ehhh, I don't know. Toei's Yuuichi seemed too much like most those old milquetoast male leads which isn't normal in most of all the male leads in Key. Those are pretty much an antithesis of those milquetoast leads which KyoAni really nailed down. And for this concentrating on "moe-ness" while the old one relied more of realism and atmosphere....uhhh, can you explain that because I figured both series did the same thing.
And for the record, there are subtly in relationships in KyoAni's version. Of course it's not just the females to the main male. Just look how Akiko acted all maternally with Makoto in the beginning of episode 10. And then there's the kicker when spoiler[she started to cry when Yuuichi and Makoto left which implies that Makoto will not come back.] Amano got far more development in KyoAni's version and is starting to lighten up towards Yuuichi near the end of the episode (the fact she wishes for sweets to fall from the sky threw me off a bit  ).
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