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Greed1914
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Crucnhyroll/Sony does want the awards to be a thing, for sure. Lately, anime-focused youtube channels I watch have been sponsored specifically to promote voting for the awards. Considering these channels aren't otherwise sponsored by them, it stands out.
Personally, I don't care about the Crunchyroll awards in terms of what it is, which is mostly just a popularity contest. What I care more about is the resources going into things like that while we also know that they're cutting jobs, reducing physical media sales, and generally not putting resources into things I do care about. |
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Beatdigga
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Let’s be honest. It still hasn’t had half the embarrassing moments or empty promises of the Game Awards.
These new award popularity contests are ultimately an industry patting itself on the back. I mean, all awards shows are, but the history and perceived snobbery of say, the Oscars, provides a level of credibility that newer shows simply don’t have. |
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Joe Mello
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I think similar points of comparison for the CRA's are events like the VMA's, the ESPY's, and Nickelodeon's Kids Choice Awards; while there may be honest intentions to reward people within each industry, the existence of the award show both is an infomercial for the industry (as all award shows are) as well as the company hosting it in its role as cultural tastemaker. Ideally, the most respected awards for anime/manga would be through an independent body, but Sony has the pull and an effective monopoly in the wider culture when it comes to watching anime.
I also imagine that while anime as a Global art form has been around long enough for people who grew up with anime their whole life to start taking positions that allow them to express their point of view (through writing, animating, criticism, etc), it still may be a bit for that idea of living one's life through the art of anime to become commonplace. I think once that specific mindset is more generally accepted, then an anime award show can start having the gravitas of the known award shows. |
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Doubleclouder
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To be honest I always felt it was a bit... weird when I see critics on this site, or any site for that matter, be so dismissive and put so little stock in award shows anime or otherwise. Isn't that a bit of a self-dig? Admitting that all form of 'professional critique' is subjective and pointless with no real importance or weight. Like, for all digging at the Crunchyroll Awards ANN still does it's own Best and Worst of every season, right? Isn't it all just fun and show at the end of the day?
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Lord Geo
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The main difference is that ANN's own "Best & Worst" are solely the opinions of the writers themselves, while the CR Awards (like the Game Awards) wants to act like it's anime equivalent to something like the Academy Awards, despite it being very reliant on fan voting. Yes, there are judges in the CR Awards to help offset things, at least in theory, but the CR Awards are very much 100% just a glorified popularity contest, which is also mostly true of the Game Awards, despite it acting like it's something more prestigious. The CR Awards are pretty much the anime version of Nickelodeon's Kids' Choice Awards. And, make no mistake, the Academy Awards are flawed in their own ways (though the Academy has at least made some efforts to address some of those flaws in more recent years), but they have always been a closed-voting awards show & don't take the general public's opinion into account at all when it comes to determining the winners. |
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Greed1914
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True. Weighting of the general voting is something that I think makes some difference there, too. I don't know if it has been stated how the CR awards weight that, but I think we can gather from things like last year's awards that the general vote heavily factors into it. From what has been said about the Game Awards, the general vote is weighted to where it could tip a closer call between nominees, but if the judges favored one nominee and the public favored a different one, the judges' pick will win. They've tried to offset that by tossing in a "Player's Choice" in there more to get people off their back about it than an actual award. |
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MiniMarps
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I put very little stock in the CR Awards, personally. For one thing, I noticed there was almost nothing that aired on Hidive nominated in any category this year, despite them having two of the best anime of the year (imo) in Rock is a Lady's Modesty and Call of the Night S2.
It's like if Walmart hosted the Walmart Awards, where you vote on which Great Value brand item was the "Food of the Year." I just can't bring myself to see it as anything more than a self-sponsored corporate puff piece. |
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Beatdigga
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I think we’ve all had that “wait, this doesn’t really matter” moment looking at the results. For me it was when Jujutsu’s Kaisen first ending somehow beat Freddie Mercury’s “The Great Pretender” for best anime ED. I was just…no, in no way is that a better song. The sole argument (and it’s a weak one) was similar to how when best wrestling themes are judged, and a massive handicap is placed against Hulk Hogan’s use of “Voodoo Child” by Jimi Hendrix because his other themes fit his character better. For JJK, the sole argument is that the song fit the ED better, which didn’t fly me with me. |
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kgw
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At least Walmart manufactures some of its own food products. Here we have a streaming service pretending to be the Oscars™. As I like to say, they have the same prestige, recognition, and connection to the industry as the awards given out by my local anime club in my hometown. Because, with all due respect, the juries of the CR awards have almost no influence over how anime series are produced. |
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Cosmos503
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Like most, I was "disappointed" in last years Crunchy awards. I do like to look at top annual lists to see if I missed something good that I should revisit and watch. While I watched the first season of Solo Leveling, I have yet to watch the 2nd (so that tells you my personnel thought on that ranking). Plus, I doubt in 10 years people will be talking about that specific show. (yeah you can argue even Oscar winners aren't long term (quick AI answer was 12% have long term cultural significance)).
But lets talk about this year....I went into do the vote and basically realized I had not watched a majority of the shows. And the few that I had (and thought were good) were all in niche categories. So I didn't bother to vote. Not sure how they decided what were the "nominations" in the first. Also, I am not a fan of the multiple vote format as that biases the vote people who go daily (as mentioned in the discussion, this is likely more about engagement then picking an actual winner). Which brings us to the ANN annual article. I preferred the older format with each reviewer giving their personnel top 2. I don't like the new consolidated top 10 as it loses the individuality and some of the more niche offerings that I am looking to see if I missed. But then I still miss Bamboo's Shelf-life as that was the best article to track what was good and great and not so much each season. Just my 2 cents as voted by me 
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Greed1914
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I think a big part of that aspect of the awards is that Crunchyroll/Sony is such an oversized player. The awards are largely a popularity thing, so the biggest anime streamer that also has the most popular stuff is going to dominate the nominations without specifically doing anything intentional when it comes to the nominations themselves. The nominees may be selected by the judges, but the judges are still going to fall back on stuff they've seen. That gets compounded by the general vote. People generally aren't going to vote for something they haven't seen, even if they hear good things about it, and will vote for what they watched whether or not they think it was truly deserving. |
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whiskeyii
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I...I actually feel the same way...? So make that four cents! But I also understand that the staff is routinely flooded with stuff to do, so this was probably a thing done to cut down on their workload. I just want to add my voice to say how much I enjoyed reading their personal statements on what they liked about each show, especially on the Top 10 list! Oftentimes people enjoyed different aspects of the same show, or someone's favorite show was another person's runner-up (or even Worst of!) The Worst of is always fun, but unless the season really had some stinkers, I was fine with just the one. |
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