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Tanteikingdomkey
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 4:27 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | For a species of sentient machine that can apparently travel space, the Medusas seem to stumble in the face of things not working as expected. They assume that radio waves mean humans are sufficiently advanced, only for them not to be. And then when they receive radio waves after thousands of years, they try again, only for that not to work. And then that one in the vacuum's reaction is to try again because it thinks it needs to keep showing the glory of petrification. If this machine can move travel to other planets on its own and come up with these plans, you'd think it would take the hint and leave after humans were a bust 3000 years ago. |
Honestly I think that this explanation is as good as they could reasonable give or execute for what they set up. Yes it is a little bit of a jump, but i well definitely defend it. First off Clarke said for a reason "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
The petrifaction beam and even Medusa society i would absolutely say yay that definitely falls in line with that, and even senku is excited to study them and begin understanding them.
The Medusas have been a very important part of the series so far, but compared to everything else have always been almost ignored relatively to almost every other piece of tech.
So making it a twist that surprise they aren't a thing but an (let's be generous) intelligent lifeform, that didn't know how to interact with humanity in a.... non destructive way.... and wasn't actually evil, I think works well.
The fact that senku and the others already talked extensively about how the petrifaction beam actually gives humanity eternal life, and it is a blessing actually helps it make sense when the medusa go, we peterify you to save you from death. Therefore we expect you to take care of us for granting you eternal life.
The series hasn't actually done a lot with "y man" to set up some evil plan for them to have some intention besides we want to petrifacty you. So saying yay we want to petrify you because we want you to have the eternal life that you have figured out, you now have, it then makes it not a huge leap to say we want this so you can take care of us, it makes a lot of sense.
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FanGamer24
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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 5:43 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | For a species of sentient machine that can apparently travel space, the Medusas seem to stumble in the face of things not working as expected. They assume that radio waves mean humans are sufficiently advanced, only for them not to be. And then when they receive radio waves after thousands of years, they try again, only for that not to work. And then that one in the vacuum's reaction is to try again because it thinks it needs to keep showing the glory of petrification. If this machine can move travel to other planets on its own and come up with these plans, you'd think it would take the hint and leave after humans were a bust 3000 years ago. |
No, radio waves are a sign of intelligent life but it was the remnants of the moon landing that convinced them humanity would make a good host. They assumed any species capable of interstellar travel would be intelligent enough to quickly break free of the petrification and figure out the cause.
They had no way of knowing that humanity had actually never gone farther than the moon and mostly stopped trying. It’s important to remember that these things are intelligent but they aren’t human. The way they think and behave is completely alien to humanity so it’s understandable there would be communication problems.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 8:53 am |
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| Tanteikingdomkey wrote: | | Greed1914 wrote: | | For a species of sentient machine that can apparently travel space, the Medusas seem to stumble in the face of things not working as expected. They assume that radio waves mean humans are sufficiently advanced, only for them not to be. And then when they receive radio waves after thousands of years, they try again, only for that not to work. And then that one in the vacuum's reaction is to try again because it thinks it needs to keep showing the glory of petrification. If this machine can move travel to other planets on its own and come up with these plans, you'd think it would take the hint and leave after humans were a bust 3000 years ago. |
Honestly I think that this explanation is as good as they could reasonable give or execute for what they set up. Yes it is a little bit of a jump, but i well definitely defend it. First off Clarke said for a reason "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
The petrifaction beam and even Medusa society i would absolutely say yay that definitely falls in line with that, and even senku is excited to study them and begin understanding them.
The Medusas have been a very important part of the series so far, but compared to everything else have always been almost ignored relatively to almost every other piece of tech.
So making it a twist that surprise they aren't a thing but an (let's be generous) intelligent lifeform, that didn't know how to interact with humanity in a.... non destructive way.... and wasn't actually evil, I think works well.
The fact that senku and the others already talked extensively about how the petrifaction beam actually gives humanity eternal life, and it is a blessing actually helps it make sense when the medusa go, we peterify you to save you from death. Therefore we expect you to take care of us for granting you eternal life.
The series hasn't actually done a lot with "y man" to set up some evil plan for them to have some intention besides we want to petrifacty you. So saying yay we want to petrify you because we want you to have the eternal life that you have figured out, you now have, it then makes it not a huge leap to say we want this so you can take care of us, it makes a lot of sense. |
I'm not saying they didn't set it up, or that the premise of the sentient machine doesn't work. What seems silly to me is that when its usual methods didn't work, the solution it came up with was to keep trying to show off the petrification on the hope that humans will get it this time.
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Tanteikingdomkey
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 1:09 pm |
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| Greed1914 wrote: | | Tanteikingdomkey wrote: | | Greed1914 wrote: | | For a species of sentient machine that can apparently travel space, the . |
Response.... |
I'm not saying they didn't set it up, or that the premise of the sentient machine doesn't work. What seems silly to me is that when its usual methods didn't work, the solution it came up with was to keep trying to show off the petrification on the hope that humans will get it this time. |
Looks at humanity and particularly those on the autism spectrum.......
Soooo yay honestly that illogical response is very highly relatable. Does it make sense no, but that's why it works.
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tintor2
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 6:23 pm |
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I see putting this aliens in the last two episodes of the entire series turned off the fans. I recall this is basically Gantz's answer to all the questions the fans had.
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RoboYuji
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2026 7:15 am |
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The thing is, "it was aliens" is one of the only explanations that can work in the setting. It wasn't going to be ACTUAL magic, so it had to be the Clarke's Law deal of super advanced technology indistinguishable from magic, and since the 21st century humans of the Dr. Stone setting don't have tech that advanced, it's gotta be aliens. The only other thing that could maybe work is an AI that managed to make itself super intelligent, but we don't really have anything like that currently either. I guess I'm saying that it wasn't going to be a wizard or God or something.
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malvarez1
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 8:41 am |
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I would love it if Dr. Stone pulled a My Hero Academia and eventually adapted the bonus chapters, there’s some genuinely good, emotional content in those.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 11:27 am |
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| Quote: | | I feel a strange urge to go build a nuclear fusion reactor in my garden shed now. |
Go ahead. Nothing's stopping you from trying, now that the NRC has been handed over to Silicon Valley venture capitalists and former DOGE terrorists.
Is the plan to go back in time to convince the Why-man aliens not to bother with petrifying humans and move on? If I were among the astronauts' descendants, I think I might object to that idea, since it would wipe them out of existence. Not only that, all the friendships everyone forged over the years would also have never happened. Some of the 21st c. people like Senku and Xeno would likely have met at some point, and maybe some of the astronauts could've hooked up, thereby begetting Kohaku and some others 3700 years later, but you can't become friends with people who don't exist in your timeline (unless you use your time machine, which you wouldn't have invented in the first place, to go forward and say "hi," but why would you since you don't know them anymore, and they would be different people anyway, having not grown up in the Stone World?).
The alternative plans don't make sense either. Shoot a beam into the past to petrify everyone? Isn't that what already happened, minus the time travel part? What is sending AI back supposed to do? 21st c. people would probably just think it was hallucinating. But mostly, changing the past just seems like a bad idea.
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 4:59 pm |
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I loved the series, it was WAY TOO optimist in its libertarian ideology, but, shounen manga its all about optimism.
However.... I gotta admit, I did not understand Medusa´s plan.
Exactly how is petrification undone by inteligence?
Petrification its undone by nitric acid in the case of people who are concious and the others you need the compound with alcohol.
It never got undone by itself if you are smart.
Does this means that is Zenku was smarter he could have undone it without the acid?
When was this told?
Taiju was consious all that time with will power and he is not smart.
The plan would make sence if they had petrified a portion of humanity, not all of it.
What I am missing?
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FanGamer24
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 5:32 pm |
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| Minos_Kurumada wrote: | | I loved the series, it was WAY TOO optimist in its libertarian ideology, but, shounen manga its all about optimism.
However.... I gotta admit, I did not understand Medusa´s plan.
Exactly how is petrification undone by inteligence?
Petrification its undone by nitric acid in the case of people who are concious and the others you need the compound with alcohol.
It never got undone by itself if you are smart.
Does this means that is Zenku was smarter he could have undone it without the acid?
When was this told?
Taiju was consious all that time with will power and he is not smart.
The plan would make sence if they had petrified a portion of humanity, not all of it.
What I am missing? |
The implication does seem to be that there is a way to break free without any outside assistance. It’s simply beyond human intelligence to do so.
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2026 6:34 pm |
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| FanGamer24 wrote: | | Minos_Kurumada wrote: | | I loved the series, it was WAY TOO optimist in its libertarian ideology, but, shounen manga its all about optimism.
However.... I gotta admit, I did not understand Medusa´s plan.
Exactly how is petrification undone by inteligence?
Petrification its undone by nitric acid in the case of people who are concious and the others you need the compound with alcohol.
It never got undone by itself if you are smart.
Does this means that is Zenku was smarter he could have undone it without the acid?
When was this told?
Taiju was consious all that time with will power and he is not smart.
The plan would make sence if they had petrified a portion of humanity, not all of it.
What I am missing? |
The implication does seem to be that there is a way to break free without any outside assistance. It’s simply beyond human intelligence to do so. |
That is what I got too, I suppoce the writer did a quick/barebones explanaition since... well, it does not make a lot of sense.
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"time travel! Whether this is at all possible in this series' cosmology who can know"
Fun fact: what Senku is trying to do is sending information into the past using Quantum Entanglement.
Look it up, its quite interesting and theoretically possible.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2026 10:56 am |
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Ok, I wasn't sure what "The End, to be continued" meant, but an additional epilogue makes sense. We saw the same happen with MHA recently with it coming back with a final, final episode not long after.
I'm not real clear on what Senku is trying to accomplish with the time machine. He mentions avoiding deaths, so maybe people who were petrified but had crumbled away so they couldn't revive? Avoiding petrification entirely would mean that the story doesn't happen, and any of the stone world people wouldn't exist. Sending back a petrification beam to avoid death also runs counter to what they've said before about how that would mean a world of old people where nobody dies and resources dwindle, and the thing the Medusas don't get about their version of eternal life is that existing just for the sake of it is incredibly boring, which Senku mentions to the one that stayed.
Plus, they are working on remaking the world pretty much exactly as it was, right down to factories, pollution, etc. If civilization is getting right back where it was, is it even necessary? What happened, happened. Best to leave it at that. If they want a new goal to achieve, well, they have positive confirmation that there is other intelligent life out there, so maybe try to develop space travel further than the moon.
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