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Slop Slop no Mi
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2026 11:33 pm |
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| ninjamitsuki wrote: | | My question is who is this even for?
The kind of people who refuse to watch animation are probably not going to enjoy a movie about a loud spiky haired bright orange ninja doing over the top anime moves. |
Cowboy Bebop and One Piece did well with the anti-animation crowd and I've seen people say they prefer the live-action versions to the cartoon one. It really can't be understated how simply not making something a cartoon get people to be more open minded at stuff. Silly and over the top isn't much of a deterrence given The CW superhero stuff and other live-action cheese like recent Star Wars and Star Trek shows found an audience. It really is just because animation is a huge barrier that immediately turns off a lot of people. Maybe there's some xenophobia there too and people don't like seeing Japanese stuff either and prefer the Americanized versions as well.
Some anime fans might like these for whatever reason but we're not the target audience. These are to get non-fans into these IPs.
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ninjamitsuki
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 12:34 am |
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| Slop Slop no Mi wrote: | | ninjamitsuki wrote: | | My question is who is this even for?
The kind of people who refuse to watch animation are probably not going to enjoy a movie about a loud spiky haired bright orange ninja doing over the top anime moves. |
Cowboy Bebop and One Piece did well with the anti-animation crowd and I've seen people say they prefer the live-action versions to the cartoon one. It really can't be understated how simply not making something a cartoon get people to be more open minded at stuff. Silly and over the top isn't much of a deterrence given The CW superhero stuff and other live-action cheese like recent Star Wars and Star Trek shows found an audience. It really is just because animation is a huge barrier that immediately turns off a lot of people. Maybe there's some xenophobia there too and people don't like seeing Japanese stuff either and prefer the Americanized versions as well.
Some anime fans might like these for whatever reason but we're not the target audience. These are to get non-fans into these IPs. |
Yes, but Cowboy Bebop is fairly realistic and not very "anime" to begin with (yet they still screwed it up) and with One Piece at least pirate movies are a familiar concept to animation haters, and even animation haters are still familiar with the cartoony tropes One Piece uses. I've also met plenty of people who watched the live action One Piece and ended up reading the manga after so I think it's more putting it in front of more eyeballs as well as accessibility (it's way less daunting to start with a season of a TV show than over 1000 episodes and countless manga volumes) than hating animation in that case.
Those two have universal appeal. Naruto has every goddamn shonen anime trope baked into the very premise. You can't get around the fact that, well, it's Naruto. It's like making a live action Hollywood Di Gi Charat or Ouran High School Host Club or something. No one who isn't a weeb is going to understand it yet alone like it. Making it live action isn't going to change that.
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 2:04 pm |
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The new Spider-Man is projected to have a gigantic opening, so the comic bubble hasn´t popped. Well, not fully but the genre simply can´t sustain the avalanche of product it used to get. Only the strong shall survive and the Naruro IP has more pull than, let´s say Superman these days, so this isn´t a suicide dive. Naruto is also a superhero manga, as that is what the author called it. Some of it could work in live action, some cannot, but there is no film series in the existing story. Make a show or write a new plot.
Naruto and Sasuke are also traditionally Japanese characters. More so than most fantasy set Battle Shounen. The underwritten Sakura, who cares, and the same goes for a bunch of others but a white Sasuke with an American accent would be as cringe as an all-Japanese FMA movie series. Luckily, such films don´t exist...
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 2:05 pm |
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| James02 wrote: | | BadNewsBlues. Look at the article. It is ONLY about HOLLYWOOD. |
I looked at the article now look at my point Hollywood is not the only place that makes bad movies or bad adaptations of existing works.
That was my point. It’s fine to debate on the recurring issue of Hollywood putting out adaptations of mixed quality but let’s be fair here they’re not the only ones guilty of doing
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| Slop Slop no Mi wrote: | | other live-action cheese like recent Star Wars and Star Trek shows found an audience. |
My dude Star Wars and Star Trek were cheesy from the jump there’s a reason the classic stuff has been spoofed in perpetuity
| Slop Slop no Mi wrote: | | Some anime fans might like these for whatever reason but we're not the target audience. . |
One does not make an adaptation of a popular manga solely for people not familiar with the original work. Espcially one that’s never been as popular in certain markets as other works.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 2:59 pm |
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Resident: Yeah, but it's still a lower opening than NWH, which might suggest hesitation and weariness on the part of fans burned by mediocre Marvel product. LG is probably hoping BND is another win, so they have a reason to bet on Naruto. ('From the director of...') Otherwise, Cretton could be axed from the latter project, and maybe get stuck with Shang-Chi 2, like Simu Liu after Doomsday flops.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:45 pm |
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| Slop Slop no Mi wrote: | | Heard nothing but bad things about Shang Chi and the MCU Spider-Man has been nothing like Spider-Man at all so this is a terrible sign | Shang-Chi is like 92% film critic score on Rotten Tomaoes and 98% audience score. The live action Naruto will probably be bad but if you've only heard bad things about Shang Chi, you need to meet more people.
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thievingdude
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2026 7:19 pm |
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| ninjamitsuki wrote: | | Yes, but Cowboy Bebop is fairly realistic and not very "anime" to begin with (yet they still screwed it up) and with One Piece at least pirate movies are a familiar concept to animation haters, and even animation haters are still familiar with the cartoony tropes One Piece uses. I've also met plenty of people who watched the live action One Piece and ended up reading the manga after so I think it's more putting it in front of more eyeballs as well as accessibility (it's way less daunting to start with a season of a TV show than over 1000 episodes and countless manga volumes) than hating animation in that case.
Those two have universal appeal. Naruto has every goddamn shonen anime trope baked into the very premise. You can't get around the fact that, well, it's Naruto. It's like making a live action Hollywood Di Gi Charat or Ouran High School Host Club or something. No one who isn't a weeb is going to understand it yet alone like it. Making it live action isn't going to change that. |
Cowboy Bebop was pretty anime to me just cool sci-fi space adventure anime and not shounen anime anime. It was anime enough they had to change a ton of stuff like Faye's outfit and a lot of mannerisms and culture. So anything 'too anime' will be removed in the Naruto adaption just like they were in One Piece and Cowboy Bebop. One Piece was also shounen anime trope and they just god rid of all that stuff like Usopp's nose, Sanji's eyebrow, his perverted antics, making the cast more diverse, etc. Naruto can be changed just as much so I wouldn't worry
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ninjamitsuki
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 12:10 am |
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| thievingdude wrote: | | ninjamitsuki wrote: | | Yes, but Cowboy Bebop is fairly realistic and not very "anime" to begin with (yet they still screwed it up) and with One Piece at least pirate movies are a familiar concept to animation haters, and even animation haters are still familiar with the cartoony tropes One Piece uses. I've also met plenty of people who watched the live action One Piece and ended up reading the manga after so I think it's more putting it in front of more eyeballs as well as accessibility (it's way less daunting to start with a season of a TV show than over 1000 episodes and countless manga volumes) than hating animation in that case.
Those two have universal appeal. Naruto has every goddamn shonen anime trope baked into the very premise. You can't get around the fact that, well, it's Naruto. It's like making a live action Hollywood Di Gi Charat or Ouran High School Host Club or something. No one who isn't a weeb is going to understand it yet alone like it. Making it live action isn't going to change that. |
Cowboy Bebop was pretty anime to me just cool sci-fi space adventure anime and not shounen anime anime. It was anime enough they had to change a ton of stuff like Faye's outfit and a lot of mannerisms and culture. So anything 'too anime' will be removed in the Naruto adaption just like they were in One Piece and Cowboy Bebop. One Piece was also shounen anime trope and they just god rid of all that stuff like Usopp's nose, Sanji's eyebrow, his perverted antics, making the cast more diverse, etc. Naruto can be changed just as much so I wouldn't worry |
Okay, but if you remove the "anime" tropes from Cowboy Bebop and One Piece they still keep the same basic premise. Space bounty hunters and pirates looking for a treasure. Those premises have universal appeal.
You're kinda missing the forest for the trees here. The shounen anime tropes are baked into Naruto's very premise. Naruto without superpowered ninjas doing hand seals and running with their arms stretched behind their backs doesn't even vaguely resemble Naruto anymore. If they "god rid of all that stuff" there'd be nothing left. You wouldn't even have a movie.
The only people who would be open to a premise like Naruto are people who already watched/read it or would be open to it. The snobby animation haters they're trying to please wouldn't even want to watch it. There's no audience for this other than maybe curious fans who want to see just how bad it is or people who already want to dip their toes into the franchise but find the length too daunting.
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PorkBazaar
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 2:15 am |
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Zero percent chance this will be good but Sexy no Jutsu will be a good litmus test for any director or staf attached to this. If they have an issue with something simple like that and remove it or change it then the project is an immediate write-off and you know it's not being made in good faith.
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malvarez1
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 4:51 pm |
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| GATSU wrote: | | Resident: Yeah, but it's still a lower opening than NWH, which might suggest hesitation and weariness on the part of fans burned by mediocre Marvel product. LG is probably hoping BND is another win, so they have a reason to bet on Naruto. ('From the director of...') Otherwise, Cretton could be axed from the latter project, and maybe get stuck with Shang-Chi 2, like Simu Liu after Doomsday flops. |
Um, BND is only set to have a lower opening than NWH because that film had Maguire and Garfield, LOL. C’mon, nothing was going to top that.
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db999
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 4:55 pm |
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| malvarez1 wrote: | | GATSU wrote: | | Resident: Yeah, but it's still a lower opening than NWH, which might suggest hesitation and weariness on the part of fans burned by mediocre Marvel product. LG is probably hoping BND is another win, so they have a reason to bet on Naruto. ('From the director of...') Otherwise, Cretton could be axed from the latter project, and maybe get stuck with Shang-Chi 2, like Simu Liu after Doomsday flops. |
Um, BND is only set to have a lower opening than NWH because that film had Maguire and Garfield, LOL. C’mon, nothing was going to top that. |
Yeah and No Way home is the 8th highest grossing movie of all time, when not adjusted for inflation. A film not tracking as good as one of the 10 highest grossing films of all time, isn’t the red flag you think it is.
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bluebaron
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 5:35 pm |
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I thought all the Naruto characters were Japanese?
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 7:51 pm |
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@bluebaron A few are Chinese stereotypes but yes, Konohagakure is indisputably fantasy Japan and 2010s Japan in Boruto, sigh. Ninja Wakanda exists but no studio needs to bother with that for a long time.
Cameron got lucky with his love for Alita, as it's set in apocalyptic LA, and there are all sorts of slice-of-life stories that can be transplanted anywhere (Hachi: A Dog's Tale was moved to modern America and no one complained) but settings can matter and are front and center here. GitS 2017 died many deaths on the way to the screen but making the setting The City, where race and nationalities don´t even exist anymore, was insane. Black Panther managed to make a billion with a nearly all-black cast, Sinners made money, Netflix's Avatar is doing allright, and Squid Game and K-Pop conquered the world. Rival Bleach has more leeway to cast some roles and maybe move the present-day setting, as long as the afterlife setting is left Buddhist, but the only and only time American Ninjas worked was in turtle form, and even they have Japanese souls. American Ninja need to die with the Cannon Group.
Chainsaw Man can be set anywhere, if you ask me, as long as it isn´t America due to a certain devil. Look forward to that announcement as the animanga to America pipeline has just begun. A few are destined to be watchable.
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