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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 12:16 am Reply with quote
Robert Zemeckis, according to http://iesb.net/movies/movie32404.htm via Dark Horizons.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:07 am Reply with quote
I'll spare the "it isn't anime, doesn't mean its bad though" argument, because its just annoying.

Well.... rumour mill.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 5:42 am Reply with quote
Steventheeunuch wrote:
I'll spare the "it isn't anime, doesn't mean its bad though" argument, because its just annoying.


Actually, Transformers is more often anime than not, and with the exception of the four part fourth season in the US (Japan had their own fourth season), all parts of Transformers have been shown in Japan.

Back on topic, DeSanto had made it clear the other day that he had narrowed down the distributer to 3 companies so I'm not ready to accept that New Line is doing the distribution. Seeing Robert Zemeckis as director is interesting though, that would deffinatly add a lot of presence to the movie and maybe even show that it can be a serious contender at the box office. That's of course if it's true.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:26 am Reply with quote
actually the transformers (and even g.i.joe) was more of anime than the other american cartoons of that era; he man,thundercats etc. not because the animation was done in japan, but because of better storytelling and pathos that didn't always have to cater to the intended young audience. i mean who could forget the "death of optimus prime" or when spkie muttered the s-word, when being sucked in by unicron? or how about when gi joe's duke got stabbed in the chest w/blood spewing? those are the things that make aforementioned series standout above the rest of their ilk.

(ps. although sanitized in america, robotech and space cruiser yamato=star blazers still pushed the boundries for standard television.) Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:06 pm Reply with quote
I heard that Roland Emmerich was the director and they already shot the entire movie in secret and there's going to be four movies, each between three and four hours long, and Hugh Jackman was going to play Optimus Prime but he was fired for holding up production.

Oh, wait, sorry, those are worthless anime message board rumours about the live-action Dragonball Z movie, not the live-action Transformers. Twisted Evil
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:03 pm Reply with quote
I guess we'll know for sure soon, DeSanto says he's going to be making a major announcement within the next 3 weeks.

BTW, there's a rummor going around that Tom Hanks is highly interested in the movie seeing as how he's a big Transformers fan himself. There's no actual basis to this rummor that I know of, but people say that there's been a major Hollywood star trying to get Zemeckis to take up the film, that star being Hanks.

Anyway, we'll know for sure soon enough.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:44 pm Reply with quote
If Tom Hanks did this movie it will defiantly be a box office hit or extremely close to it. It could also rekindle some of the people's memories of anime who saw the original Transformers on t.v.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:47 pm Reply with quote
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actually the transformers (and even g.i.joe) was more of anime than the other american cartoons of that era; he man,thundercats etc. not because the animation was done in japan, but because of better storytelling and pathos that didn't always have to cater to the intended young audience.


Which doesn't make it anime. It must be created in Japan by Japanese to be anime. Thundercats, GI JOe and Transformers were all written and storyboarded here in the US, making them simply work-for-hire jobs for Toei
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:50 pm Reply with quote
Technically it is still anime, just not Japanimation.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:19 pm Reply with quote
tetsusaiga-kyo wrote:
Technically it is still anime, just not Japanimation.


How can that be when "Japanimation" is just a low-brow term for anime? Grudgingly, I have to side with SoW on this one, the original Transformers is not anime. Only the most recent incarnations (Armada, Energon...y'know, the crappy ones) can be counted as anime proper, as they were created wholly by a Japanese production team for a Japanese audience.

Good show (great show, actually), but it's just not anime.
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 4:20 pm Reply with quote
Nagisa wrote:
Good show (great show, actually), but it's just not anime.


Actually that's not entiely true. Out of 10 or so different Transformermers incarnations only 3 of them are not really anime (Original Transformers G1 seasons 1-4, Beast Wars, Beast Machines). Transformers were faaaar more popular in Japan, after the series ended for us they kept it going for many years.

I'll go into detail tomorrow, i've got to get to work...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:27 pm Reply with quote
I was actually just referring to the G1 seasons, specifically. I thought those were the only ones up for discussion here, so I didn't make much of a point to single them out. Sorry about that. Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:41 pm Reply with quote
That's all right, I thought we were talking about TF as a whole. Oh well, I'll just post this anyway for future reference.

Transformers (1984): The original. This one is American, but based on a line of various Japanese toy lines (Microman, Diaclone, Macross, and several others) with the character designs heavily influenced by them. Arived in Japan in 1985.

Transformers: The Movie (1986): Same idea as the TV series, but mostly based on original characters created by Takara and Hasbro. Doesn't arive in Japan until 1989.

Transformers: Scramble City (1986): This was Takara's way of explaining the arival of the new characters since The Movie wouldn't be released for another 3 years in Japan. It was an OAV release and was canceled after the first video. Again not released in the US.

Transformers: Headmasters (1987): Instead of the 3 part miniseries we had for season 4 in G1, Japan had an all new series to replace it. Headmasters has never been shown in the US, but we did get the toys.

Transformers: Master Force (1988): An all new series with mostly new characters. Again, we never saw this in the US, but many of the toys did get released in the US (Headmasters, Powermasters, and Pretenders were the mainstays of this series).

Transformers: Victory (1989): A completely new series with very few (if any) characters and toys that have been seen previously in the US. Totally unique to Japan with no Japanese release.

Transformers: Zone (1990): This would be the last Transformers series until Beast Wars in 1996. The show featured the return of several past gestalt teams in what would have become a giant robot free-for-all. Ment to be a pilot to a new series it was only made available on video in Japan.

Beast Wars: The Transformers (1996): The first new Transformers TV series in over 6 years created entirely by Hasbro. Was released later in Japan in two parts, Beast Wars (1998) and Beast Wars Metals (1999).

Beast Wars II: Transformers (1998): A Japanese only sequal to Beast Wars that was made partially from repainted versions of Beast Wars toys not used on the original TV series.

Beast Wars Neo: Transformers (1999): A semi-sequal to Beast Wars II only shown in Japan. Made up of new characters and not shown in the US.

Transformers: Beast Machines (1999): The sequal to Beast Wars, it's slated for a showing in Japan in late 2004.

Transformers: Car Robots (2000): An all new series out of Japan featuring several new character designs along with some that were originally used as far back as G1. A US release was brought over by Hasbro in 2001 under the name Transformers: Robots in Disguise.

Transformers: Armada (2002): The first joint venture between Takara and Hasbro in over 10 years. The show and story handled primarily by Takara with the toys being done greatly in part by Hasbro. The Japanese version was known as Transformers: Micron Legend.

Transformers: Energon (2004): Continued from Armada with much the same partnership between Hasbro and Takara. The Japanese version is known as Transformers: Super Link.

And that's it unless I missed anything major. There were several other toy lines that were never animated (G2, Machine Wars) and some shows that never made it into production (Battlestars).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:58 pm Reply with quote
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Transformers: Beast Machines (1999): The sequal to Beast Wars, it's slated for a showing in Japan in late 2004.

Did this one take place on Cybertron? If so, I think it might have aired on Fox Kids a couple years ago.
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