Forum - View topicTarantino is considering Kill Bill anime sequel.
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Godaistudios
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You got the gist of what I was talking about. As far as the probability that people don't know what it is? That's pretty unlikely now, I think. With anime having won an Academy Award now, being shown on most cable networks (thanks to Cartoon network) and it being readily availble at places like wal-mart, it's been around in our culture long enough for people to pick up on it. I'd say it's fair to say that the average person in the U.S. is familiar with anime, even if they don't watch it. The problem is that if this is their first real taste, it could very well leave a bitter flavor in their mouths. |
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Proman
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Why? Just because it's violent? I don't think that the kinds of people who went to see kill bill will be turned off by violent anime (not the majority anyway). Not unless it's of poor quality (which I don't think it was - my personal opionion). But I see your point. |
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ShellBullet
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I think anyone who goes to a Tarantino movie is probably expecting to see alot of violence, in which case an extremely violent anime sequence will not disappoint. Those people that would be offended by the segment were not in the theatre to see it. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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Actually, I think it's because of the art stylings used actually. I've seen a general split in the feelings regarding the artwork used. Although it is definetly an anime style, it most definetly turned me off. Now I'm usually pretty open minded when it comes to anime, and I knew there would be some very different aspects for an audience in the U.S. For that reason, while I know that some of the most hardcore fans might like it, I get the feeling that general audiences would be turned off by it.
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Sword of Whedon
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Foljo
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Heh, funny you guys saying all thins “anime must be made in Japan”. I am going to the Academy of Art College in San Francisco, it has a LOT of exchange students, tons from Japan. I made some friends with them (being Russian myself, we have a lot in common, like learning damn English and talking about how USA is different from our homeland). I once asked one of my Japanese friends, do you guys care if anime is not produced in Japan? He looked at me puzzled, said that they call everything anime there, even cartoons that came from USA (haha, Winnie the Pooh, that was hilarious discussion, but I will save it for later). So once again, I think, we make up some crap, like otaku meaning, and declare that anime only can be made in Japan, when even people from there don’t think like that.
So which one is it? P.S. Just asked my girlfriend (who also is Japanese, she got me into anime after all), same damn reaction. |
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Proman
Posts: 947 Location: USA |
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Privet Foljo! Kak dela  ? Ti iz kakogo goroda? Yeah, Russian is my native language.
Yeah, in Japan all cartoons are considered to be anime. However, most users who come to this forum are only interested in the ones that were produced in Japan (this is not to say that it's the only country that produces qaulity animation). |
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Foljo
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Zdarova  Ya v obche iz Dubni, eto Moskovskaya Oblast', okola 130km ot somoi Moskvi. Seichas jivu v San Francisco
As for people being interested in anime from Japan, I don't have problem with that. But one must wonder, people here don't watch anime from Korea at all or they just can't tell the difference? |
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God_of_Evil
 Posts: 176 Location: A place with limited Anime |
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Exactly. When we talk about anime, we talk about the style of animation and drawings and such. We're not talking about Japanese cartoons in general. |
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Foljo
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So you mean to tell me that only Japanese can re-create such style, but when other people start to draw in the same style, it's not anime anymore? I mean if it's looks the same way as Japanese anime, what's the difference? |
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God_of_Evil
Posts: 176 Location: A place with limited Anime |
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Hmm... Re-read the line I pointed out and you'll know that I meant that anything that looks like anime is anime, either American, Korean or wathever.(I know some people say it's not pure but it still anime). |
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Tenchi
 Posts: 4665 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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Yeah, that's why I'm increasingly eschewing arbitrary fan-defined definitions as to what should be considered "anime" and what is just "an attempt to cash in" and, instead, I just call 'em all "cartoons".
Then I don't have to worry about the bloodline of the persons whom had the original inspiration and what percentage of the creative team is from the correct side of the Pacific (and the correct side of the Japan Sea). |
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Sword of Whedon
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This is correct, in Japanese anime means "animation"
Well, the people who introduced the term to the English language 20+ years ago specifically applied it to Japanese animation, and Japanese animation only. I think the people who originated the usage are more correct than you are just because we've hit a generation where many of the people creating comics and working in Hollywood are familiar with the art form and draw inspiration from it. You can call it "anime-influenced" but it's not anime. |
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ShellBullet
Posts: 1051 Location: I hit things, with my fist. |
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*sigh* not this debate again .
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mahoro
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IMO the KillBill animated sequences were crapola. I have seen better student animated shorts when I was still in school. The CGI human characters in TF Energon look better than that. If they do an extended animated version, it is just Hollywood milking the anime cashcow without understanding the medium and storytelling.
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