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Meier



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:15 pm Reply with quote
Had been rumored and mentioned as a short list title prior to today but it was made official this afternoon. It cant come out in the US soon enough. Very Happy

http://www.festival-cannes.fr/index.php?langue=6002#selection
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Ken Hayashi



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:53 pm Reply with quote
I hope it wins something. I REALLY REALLY hope it wins something. It deserves to win something.
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Tenchi



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:48 pm Reply with quote
Although Mamoru Oshii directed my absolute favourite anime film, Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer, I'm afraid I never cared much for the first Ghost in the Shell film, though I will give Innocence a chance.

However, as someone who enjoys seeing Michael Moore lose, GO, GO, MAMORU OSHII or Wong Kar-Wai! GO AND WIN THE PALME D'OR!

Haven't seen you around Rotten Tomatoes much lately, Meier. (I'm Kiyone there.)
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=BlanK=



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:25 pm Reply with quote
Its been a while since I've sat down to a big anime feature film and its the sequel to Ghost of the Shell no less Laughing Package it in a nice DVD disc set and send it my way already!
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Craeyst Raygal



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:31 am Reply with quote
Yes, please do something to shut up Michael Moore, hopefully involving firearms.

I don't mind most preachy, closed-minded, idiotic, rhetoric spewing liberals, but he's one that has to go. Besides, Innocence is pretty good.
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nitaro



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:17 am Reply with quote
I hope it wins too, to prove the animation is the one of the
most artistic genre.
But I think it is difficult. Because Innocence's story is more
tedious than the picture.
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=BlanK=



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 2:19 pm Reply with quote
what do u mean by innocence story being more tedious than the picture ? i dont understand Embarassed
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Ken Hayashi



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:13 pm Reply with quote
nitaro wrote:
I hope it wins too, to prove the animation is the one of the
most artistic genre.
But I think it is difficult. Because Innocence's story is more
tedious than the picture.


Have you watched it already? It hasn't been released yet right?

Whatever it is, it is by Shirow Masamune. He's one of my favourites.

I can imagine the story will be rather dark and brooding, like the rest of the GITS world. But we can't all be laughing and dreaming of a perfect world all the time, eh?
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nitaro



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:19 pm Reply with quote
=BlanK= wrote:
what do u mean by innocence story being more tedious than the picture ? i don't understand Embarassed

Sorry for my bad English. Sad
(English is second language.)

I mean this work's Graphic is very high quality and innovative.
But main story is common except many quotation.
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Dragon Hunter



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 10:21 pm Reply with quote
Nitaro said:
[Sorry for my bad English. (English is second language.) ]

My friend, no need to apologize. Very fews of us would do well trying to write in Japanese. Thank you for your comments.

If I understand you correctly, you may be saying that the animation/graphics are excellent but the story is simple.
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Proman



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 1:12 am Reply with quote
Craeyst Raygal wrote:
Yes, please do something to shut up Michael Moore, hopefully involving firearms.

I don't mind most preachy, closed-minded, idiotic, rhetoric spewing liberals, but he's one that has to go. Besides, Innocence is pretty good.

I didn't want to respond to the first anti-Michael Moore comment because I thought it wouldn't be approriate (and I still don't think it is - there's are other forums for that) but I don't think that ignoring it is a very good idea either.
You're the one who's close-minded.
Micheal Moore is a smarter guy than you're realise (and I'm willing to bet that you haven't even seen Roger and Me) and so far he's done more good than all of your idiotic (and I'm using your words here) and preachy conservatives combined.
But I'm glad you liked Innocence. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. Who knows, it might even get nominated for an Oscar Wink ? It's interesting that it got nominated after received very mixed reviews in Japan.
P.S. I don't mean to start any flame wars or offend anyone with my message Exclamation .
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Ken Hayashi



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:29 am Reply with quote
nitaro wrote:
=BlanK= wrote:
what do u mean by innocence story being more tedious than the picture ? i don't understand Embarassed

Sorry for my bad English. Sad
(English is second language.)

I mean this work's Graphic is very high quality and innovative.
But main story is common except many quotation.


Nitaro-san wa Nihon-jin desu ka?

Your command of English is way better than my understanding of Japanese. I'm working for a Japanese company (Taisei Corporation) and my admin manager paid for my basic lesson in Japanese. Unfortunately, I'm still not very good at it.

I haven't seen the movie but I'd expect it to be quite good anyway. I know that Shirow tends to like to do this type of political/mecha/lots-of-guns type of manga or anime. Ever noticed how Appleseed, GITS, Dominion Tank Police and Black Magic M-66 all seem quite similar to one another in setting? Only Black Magic involved some hocus pocus. Orion was even more hocus pocus but with a scientific twist. This might lead some to feel that all his works lack originality. But I actually like his style. I won't mind having more of a good thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 12:26 pm Reply with quote
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Nitaro-san wa Nihon-jin desu ka?


We have a number of native Japanese speakers here, as well as a number of foreigners who are also proficient in the language (to varying degrees)

However, it's not really on-topic, so if you're going to discuss Japanese skill much further, please make a new thread.
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yidaki



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 4:48 am Reply with quote
Feels like it's an obvious winner to whatever category they put it in.
I'm pretty sure it cant have much to compete against.
But one never knows, those artists can choose some polish action-dogma just because it's non-mainstream.
"best animation", no doubt, "best drama", maybe Smile
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:54 am Reply with quote
Um, Avalon would count as a Polish action-dogma. Anyway, the only way it'll win is if Wong Kar Wai doesn't have anything to show for the time he spent on 2046.
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