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Forum - View topicDoes anyone know what happened to all the manga?
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miss_prada_g
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As the title suggest, I was wondering since I'm not getting a "clear" answer on the net, does anyone know what happened to some of the manga/manhwa released from tokyopop? A lot of the series I'm looking for seemed to stop after volume 1 or 2 and there is this long period of pause and no real explanation put out there. For example, the book Rolling, a manhwa, it was released back in mid 08ish and it's been taken down from the tokyopop website but it still says its licensed by tokyopop. I read from only ONE article, which was the only search result on google that offered any explanation online that a couple of series have been put on a "postponed/delayed" status which can be give or take a "dropped/cancelled" project. Is that true? Man...this is confusing, and if that is true. How come it's hard to come by a press release article? Doesn't the public readers have a right to know if their series is no longer going to be translated or published? Does any of this make sense? @x@;;
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Tamaria
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I wish I knew... It's save to assume most of those series are cancelled, but it would be nice if Tokyopop was more clear about the whole thing. I mean, it's the least they can do.
I want the final volume of Good Witch of the West, damnit! |
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fighterholic
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It has been apparent that Tokyopop has been holding back on some of their releases. This can be confirmed with other people's testimonies that they haven't been seeing the continuation of some of the series that they have been reading. Tokyopop actually said a while ago that they were having to cut back on output, and now we're seeing that statement coming true. Everybody's having to cut back on things here and there, so it's not too much of a surprise. I think right now we just need them to survive this economy if we're going to see the rest of the releases come forward.
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Tamaria
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Holding back would be more like releasing only two or four volumes a year, instead of six. No sign of a new volume after nearly a year is not a sign of holding back, it's a sign of the series is one breath away from being cancelled. Either that, or Tokyopop is stupid and doesn't know how to divide its resources in order to keep everyone happy. |
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Mushi-Man
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Well if you look back on the past year or two we see that Tokyopop isn't doing to well in the new economic situation. So I imagine Tokyopop is taking the mentality of "if it doesn't sell, it's going." In the past Tokyopop seemed a bit more flexible with series that didn't sell to well. But I guess they just don't have the room in the budget to do this. Seems now they are shooting on sight. if you will, at any series that doesn't make the cut. This is probably whats happening.
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HitokiriShadow
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Tokyopop put a ton of their titles on indefinite hiatus last year. They never actually said they canceled any of them, but very few if any of those titles will have any further releases, at least from Tokyopop. We know that a lot of their editors were layed off and translators were told they were no longer needed. They said they were drastically reducing their output around the same time a large number of titles were "indefinitely delayed". There was simply no way TP could make the reductions they said they wanted to make simply by stretching out releases, particularly since they've continued to license a few dozen titles since then.
When a company says something about an "indefinite delays", that's almost always PR bullshit for "we have no intention of finishing this". |
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SakuraAlchemist
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but this article animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-07-11/adv-tokyopop-discontinues-dvd-print-titles says "Publishers Weekly's The Beat blog reports that the North American publisher Tokyopop has canceled the following volumes: " .w. so like 9 series have definitely be canceled i think. |
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Tamaria
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I understand some series just aren't profitable, but some of the cancelled series were very close to the ending. Good Witch of the West is only missing the final volume. What does not releasing the final volume say to the readers? "Hey, we're unreliable pieces of shit and we hate you!  "
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HitokiriShadow
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I was mistaken then. It seems they did officially cancel some of the titles. |
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Mushi-Man
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I guess you could look at it that way. But I think it's more like "Times are hard right now so we can't afford to put this out." Other companies seem to be having this same problem and have been delaying releases of new volumes or series. I'm sure with situations like those they'll try to get back to releasing them when they have the money. But until then it's hard times for everyone. |
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Buster Blader 126
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Did any of the hiatus-ed Tokyopop volumes ever get their next volume(s) solicited and released, by the way? I think I remember hearing that one or two titles would actually have their release continued by now, but it's been quite some time since I heard something along those lines, so I'm possibly mistaken.
In any case, I ended up losing the last two volumes of Boys Be... 2nd to TP's troubles, but I hadn't been buying them for about two years now and was simply waiting until it was all out before considering to continue it due to other priorities, so it wasn't that big of a loss for me. Thankfully the only two titles I was otherwise collecting were unaffected - Dragon Head finished up before this whole fiasco, and the last volume of Welcome to the NHK! made it out. |
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Tamaria
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The best thing you can do now is reassure buyers it's safe to buy your new series. If you drop nearly finished series, you'll lose the trust of your readers. If they don't trust you, you won't get their money. Viz has the policy of finishing every series they start, including the ones that sell like crap and are 25+ volumes long. They're continuing Saint Seiya, even though it's one of their worst selling titles. Thanks to that policy I know I can safely start a new Viz series. Sure, some volumes go OOP rather fast, but atleast they were released. |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Tokyo Pop has cancelled and put several series on hitatus. But if Tokyo Pop didn't do that, the possibily of Tokyo Pop either going chapter 11 or even worse chapter 7 would have been much higher.
I don't blame fans for being distraught, but if a series isn't selling well or isn't making enough money for their standards, they must get rid of that series. In order to keep business afloat, they have to do this. Tokyo Pop has also had to lay off 100+ employees, so I much rather see a series become cancelled, then for a hard working employee to lose their job. Tokyo Pop is in a very tough sitution right now, the best action to do is continue to purchase their manga. Tokyo Pop needs the anime community's help more than ever now and it would be quite a loss to see Tokyo Pop close down. |
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HitokiriShadow
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The problem is, many of us have been burned by canceled/"indefinitely delayed" Tokyopop releases multiple times now. After the 5th or 6th time, particularly when you own 15+ volumes of some of those titles, you just don't really care what Tokyopop's reasons are because you are the one that has spent $100+ on titles that will never be finished. If I don't have faith that they can finish what they've started, why should I waste my money on them? There is no reason the customers should continue spending their money on a company that has repeatedly shown themselves to be unreliable. You act like TokyoPop is some poor victim of circumstance, but none of the other manga companies have had to do this and TP's problems started well before the economy's rapid descent. |
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Tamaria
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Viz is still able to stick to their policy of finishing series. CMX has always been all like "Oh, let's publish Swan and some more shoujo series from the eighties the avarage reader has never heard of!" and they seem to be doing alright. Delrey and Dark Horse too. Heck, there are even several (small) publishers that think 2009 is a great year for gekiga and other niche manga. Tokyopop? They started digging that hole they're in years ago and I don't see why I should help them climb out.
Edit: Seeing Tokyopop go wouldn't be such a bad thing. It could open up the saturated market. The good series will be picked up by other publishers. It won't bring back most of the cancalled series, but those would have been lost either way. |
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