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EternalWinds



Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:59 am Reply with quote
Manga/Comic/graphic novel or whatever.

Im planning on making one late this year or the next and post it online for free because im not the best drawer/writer in the world and would probably get creamed in the competitions, but im getting better at it everyday and will get mad pro skillz in the future. Anybody else?
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Penguin_Factory



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:19 am Reply with quote
I took up drawing about two years ago with the intention of getting good enough to start my own web comic. Still a long way off, though Razz
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wicked86



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:53 pm Reply with quote
I've thought about making one, I can't draw to save my life though.

My friend who got me into this stuff though, has been trying to make a manga for quite sometime, just hasn't had time. I also have a hand in that because while can't draw, I'm a pretty good judge of art and whatnot(IMO) and I've noticed countless times that his drawings, while looking good to an extent. No matter what he puts into them they seem to be very lifeless.
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EternalWinds



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:13 pm Reply with quote
Im like that myself started drawing 2 years ago and have along way to go. But thats all going to change this year. I made a new years resolution to make my own manga this year. Smile
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Blackpeppir



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:51 pm Reply with quote
Penguin_Factory wrote:
I took up drawing about two years ago with the intention of getting good enough to start my own web comic. Still a long way off, though Razz


Hah, I did the exact same thing. I managed to get as far as completing a cast and 3 story arcs on paper then realized just how far off I was from actually being able to draw it out. Still trying though, glad to know I'm not the only one out there. I always have the persistent problem of drawing something one day then looking at it the next day and thinking "what was I on when I thought that was good" before scrapping it and starting over. Probably why I've never finished more than 3 pages before starting over.
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Shawn Shaolin



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:12 am Reply with quote
I've been writing stories my whole life. I took up art recently due to the fact that I'd gotten tired of not knowing what my characters looked like.

So I'm writing a bunch of stories that I will turn into manga. I just need to bring my art up to par. My art isn't professional and it needs a ton of work. But I've written a few stories that I will use in a manga.

I plan to put the manga out on a website I'll design but I need my art to be up to par.
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BunnyCupCakes



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:34 pm Reply with quote
Eh, the problem for me isn't the art, it's the story.
Well more like I have the story & characters in mind but I just don't have enough motivation yet to script it and all that jazz.

Though one of my goals is to put up a webcomic by this year.
Hopefully I'll get to it...someday.
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soubi202



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:30 am Reply with quote
I am planning on getting one of my friends who is very good at drawing manga to work with me on a new manga series that I've been writing. I'm more of a story person than a drawing person, but I have a tablet that they could use, too, so that would probably work out very well if we can get it posted somewhere with views.
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Psycho_Despair



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:16 pm Reply with quote
Last month I have been working on a one-shot, I got most of the story planned out, my friends really liked the storyboards I drew so they can read it and they really want to see the finished manuscript but school has been holding me down esp. my grades. And I actually builded a huge suspense on my story because I haven't shown or told about the ending. Twisted Evil Too bad I won't do the manuscript until I start going to college, so they got to wait for 2 years (and they are ok with it)
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Imperialkat



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:53 am Reply with quote
Yeah, I did the same thing Penguin_Factory did. My art was improving but it isn't where I want it to be yet and school has sapped the mojo needed to practice. I was writing stories too but...school.

Maybe when my thesis is done I'll dust off the ol' pen(cil--I make a lot of mistakes). I don't know if I'll have everything together enough to create a manga/comic/whatever by the end of the year, but it would be nice.
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littlegreenwolf



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:22 pm Reply with quote
I'm working on my own comic, but I wouldn't call it manga even if it is going to be in black and white. Going for an adventure story with Hans Christian Andersen themes in a steam-punk setting with Renaissance flair (if that makes any sense).

Pacing the story and the drawing the technical machinery is my biggest challenge in producing it at the moment.
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FeralKat



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:33 pm Reply with quote
Been working on a short comic for about a year... I'm getting close to starting it (finally!). Very Happy I love fairytale themes, so it's based off of one.
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Blackpeppir



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:46 pm Reply with quote
Pacing has always been a huge issue for me. Something that seems right when I'm writing it just feels rushed when I finally manage to get it on paper. Biggest issue I have tends to be backgrounds. I can draw people just fine but I fail at backgrounds.
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Paploo



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:16 pm Reply with quote
Planning to make a webcomic means nothing really. I'd suggest just going ahead and doing it- it doesn't have to be perfect, and whatever you do with it is really up to you, since you're mostly doing it for yourself anyways. It's really different from doing a professional work.

The best thing to do to make yourself better is to just keep making comics, and putting them online even if they aren't all that great is a good idea- you can get critiques, you can develop your style, you can learn what you like doing. I totally understand taking time to build characters/worlds/etc [I have a ton of series ideas waiting in the wings for when I have the time], but I find it's best to just go at it- even if it's not all that great, you can always go back to it later [Spike redraws some panels for the print edition of Templar AZ, while Jeff Smith did Bone as a print comic strip in his school newspaper, then reworked the series and published it independtly in the 90's and 00's, then coloured it all for the new Scholastic edition, all over the course of 3 or so decades], or move onto a new series.

http://girlamatic.com/jeepers/ I've been doing Jeepers for about 7 years now with Girlamatic.com, and have been drawing comics for about 10 [also have some comics hosted at http://webcomicsnation.com/andre/ including my first series Mouffette Machine which I'm currently posting archives of. The art's pretty horrid. I'm proud of what I've done so far with Chateau Wonderful, which I'm hoping to get back to before the end of the year]. It takes a really long time, especially if your self taught.

In summary, don't spend your time on the internets posting about the comics you're going to make- MAKE THEM! You'll learn lots more that way, even if the comics end up being horrid :) [and somehow they might even end up being readable from all you know- if a comic's entertaining/fun, people tend to not worry about art quality as much]

The best tips I can give-
- LISTEN TO PROFESSIONALS ADVICE- If an editor or a pro artist writes back to you, and politely tells your whats right or wrong with your work, listen to them. They took their time (which is often limited ) to e-mail you, and think your work is at least worth talking to you about, pay attention to them and be nice. When at a Con, be civil, polite, and take them seriously. Don't bad mouth them online. They will probably find you- the comics world is very, very very very small. Way smaller then you think.
-use cardstock paper or bristol. It's more archival, and makes storing art easier then computer paper (I use cardstock, as I find it's thin enough to be easy to work with, but thick enough to be nice and sturdy and storable)
-you don't need fancy computer skills, it's pretty easy to use a scanner. Having good photoshop skills never hurts though.
-use permanent markers, india ink, pigment liners, rather then ballpens or pencils. Archival materials=good! If you do decide to go for all pencil art, use non-smudging pencils. Whiteout/whiteout tape work well too, though they yellow with age, but can generally be cleaned up in scans easy enough. White plastic erasers are great too.
- have panel borders. Seriously. Nothing looks wierder to read then those panels that are just lines across a paper. Have some sort of white space (or black space) between your panels, as it helps break things up. Gutters make everything look better.
- Take breaks while drawing, so you don't hurt your hands or your eyes. Seriously.
- Don't take it too seriously. You're doing all this work for free, it's really, really different from the demands of professional work. Have fun, and if you do decide to get serious, know your limits. Webcomics burnout happens a lot. Pay attention to useful critiques or readers complaints, but don't pay attention to baiting/jerks/moochers [I don't get much of that, but I'm guessing jerks don't read comics about Bunnies, Hamsters and Little Witch Girls]
-again, re moochers- your time is worth money, or at least worth your own choices. Put up a paypal donation button. If you sell stuff online, or at cons, don't underprice it. If you have something important to do, and haveto put your comic on hiatus while it's happening, nice readers don't mind.

-Respect other artist's rights and copyright- Don't swipe other artists designs, tacing over their work, or outright steal their artwork. Making your own stuff is way cooler anyways.

Horrific True Tale- one time in an Artist Alley, a girl had bought a table to sell "prints" of "her" artwork- as in, selling black and white printouts of artwork she found online, like manga covers and DA pieces, apparently ripped by hand as she had no concept of what scissors are. When confronted, she said she drew them herself, and when asked to draw something herself, refused to. She quickly disappeared, never seen again.

Showing bad drawings of your own is totally awesome, because your took the time to make them, and in doing so, make an effort to get better at your work. Thinkabout that before you swipe. Anime fandom is horrid when it comes to stuff like intellectual property because of certain aspects of online fandom, and fans don't seem to have a proper understanding of why this stuff is important. Think before your get kicked out of artist alley, or sued by another artist whose stuff you stole.

BTW--- When I was doing webcomics in school, I found I had oodles more time to do so, but really, it's something that you'll always be doing in your spare time since it's hard to make an actual living at it (though if you work hard enough, you can make something off it- I'm glad to be a professional webcomics site, as I don't have to worry about any hosting, coding or advertising issues. All I have to do is upload my pages and listen to my editor when need be, though I really need to fix my archives up a bit once I'm finished with the series).
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John Casey



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:11 am Reply with quote
Hah. I'd always wanted to do a comic or something - cept I can't draw for shit; I'm a writer.

And while I'm always up for collaboration, I've always had the luck of working with self-centered douchebags, crazy people, or people who completely take what I write, and change into their own thing, which effectively kills off the collaborative part, and categorizes them under the self-centered douchebag.

Luuuucky me... =_=
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