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NEWS: FNN: Shintaro Ishihara to Announce 'Party of the Sun'




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mgosdin



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:38 pm Reply with quote
Got my sun glasses and a tub of popcorn. This should be fun to watch from a distance.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:06 pm Reply with quote
Oh so he's one the members that was responsible for that bill.
At least their parties sound better than ours.
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Clyde_Cash



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:17 pm Reply with quote
Chrno2 wrote:
Oh so he's one the members that was responsible for that bill.
At least their parties sound better than ours.


They should be jailed for stomping on free speech.

This mess wouldn't have happened if Japan became an American colony after the war. Banning minors from buying certain manga? Gun control? Schools that intrude on the lives of their students (Outside of real problems such as bullying)? Why do they put up with that barbaric crap instead of adopting our superior ways?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:48 pm Reply with quote
Here's a list of failed right-wing parties and their leaders.

National Fascist Party (Italy) 1921-1945, Benito Mussolini
British Union of Fascists (England) 1932-1940, Sir Oswald Mosley
National Socialist German Workers Party (Germany) 1932-1945, Adolph Hitler
Tatenokai (Shield Society) (Japan) 1968-1970, Yukio Mishima (friend of Shintaro Ishihara)
Kach & Kahane Chai (Israel) 1971-1994 (Banned), Rabbi Meir Kahane

Will Shintaro Ishihara's "Party of the Sun" head in the same direction?
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einhorn303



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:01 pm Reply with quote
Isn't it unwise to choose a name reminiscent of his embarrassing novel? That seems like the sort of move "failed politician trying to make it as comedic internet celebrity" Herman Cain would do.

Herman Cain: Time is ripe for a third political party

Huh...eerie.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:03 pm Reply with quote
Well, he does sound like he'd be right at home with the Religious Right over here.
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Chrno2 wrote:
Oh so he's one the members that was responsible for that bill.
At least their parties sound better than ours.


I would recommend that you remember his name. He's done more than just support/push that bill. He's also blamed the "otaku" and homosexuals (among other groups) for the "decline" in Japanese culture and had even said this "decline" was the reason behind the earthquake in March 2011, though he was made to apologize for his latter comment afterward...

Clyde_Cash wrote:
They should be jailed for stomping on free speech.

This mess wouldn't have happened if Japan became an American colony after the war. Banning minors from buying certain manga? Gun control? Schools that intrude on the lives of their students (Outside of real problems such as bullying)? Why do they put up with that barbaric crap instead of adopting our superior ways?


I'm not really butthurt by this comment (it's likely a troll comment, anyway, though I hate assuming people have nothing better to do with their time), but really...
Since when was America the source of all good in the world? Even our "freedoms" have brought several social issues here that Japan doesn't have to deal with.
It would've been impossible for that to happen anyway. :/
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revolutionotaku



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:28 am Reply with quote
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Chrno2 wrote:

Since when was America the source of all good in the world? Even our "freedoms" have brought several social issues here that Japan doesn't have to deal with.


A while back, I happen to have read Ishihara's anti-American book called "The Japan That Can Say No". The stuff he wrote about the Americans will blow your mind!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Japan_That_Can_Say_No#American_prejudice
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revolutionotaku



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:19 pm Reply with quote
Shintaro Ishihara has recently called himself "an out-of-control old man".
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:37 pm Reply with quote
revolutionotaku wrote:


Ya guys know who replaces him, right? Laughing

(And he could still end up as a king-maker if not a Prime Minister.)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:34 am Reply with quote
The other day I posted something on here about the education system and it caused a shit storm when lefties jumped all over it. It will be interesting to see if all the political posts in this thread will get chastised or deleted given this is all about Ishihara, it feels like years now after the whole Tokyo Youth Ordinance Bill thingy which changed like... nothing. Wink

Oh yea, and after the bill Japanese legislation and self-censorship is still nowhere near as tight as it is in parts of the West. Here volumes of something as innocent as Negima! actually come shrink wrapped just because they feature drawings of schoolgirl's panties and mild shotacon themes which are only played for laughs FFS. Of course the kind of Anglosphere net warriors still bitchin' about the Youth Ordinance Bill in Tokyo won't realise this, because they want everything for free and never buy actual tankobon. Rolling Eyes

If you bother reading about what actually happened, the whole thing against Ishihara among western otaku is really paranoia being stirred up by a minority of otaku who appreciate the kind of doujin manga he was restricting (which doesn't mean the same thing as actually banning). I don't know how many people over in Japan object to the most extreme content of certain non-mainstream manga, like shotacon materials where a much older man rapes a 5 to 8 year old boy and leaves him crying at the end of the bed which means perverts want to see not just sex but emotional abuse. But TBH I think most people might find this kind of thing tasteless in any country.

After all none of our mainstream titles have been banned, why should we care? I thought the whole silly Youth Ishihara Tokyo Bill thing died down yonks ago... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:04 am Reply with quote
Party of the Sun, where it never shines.
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Chrno2



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:17 pm Reply with quote
Clyde_Cash wrote:

They should be jailed for stomping on free speech.

This mess wouldn't have happened if Japan became an American colony after the war. Banning minors from buying certain manga? Gun control? Schools that intrude on the lives of their students (Outside of real problems such as bullying)? Why do they put up with that barbaric crap instead of adopting our superior ways?


I hope you're being sarcastic on the note of "adopting our superior ways, because to be honest we're not faring much better.

Juno016 wrote:

I would recommend that you remember his name. He's done more than just support/push that bill. He's also blamed the "otaku" and homosexuals (among other groups) for the "decline" in Japanese culture and had even said this "decline" was the reason behind the earthquake in March 2011, though he was made to apologize for his latter comment afterward...


Ah, that's pretty bad. It almost seems like many of the issues that we're seeing here is also happening everywhere else in the world. Especially when it comes to the government trying to control what people watch, read and produce. But the culture is different. Unfortunately I can see how things are changing a bit for them. And as always after they sign these bills once they resign they say, "Oops, my bad." You have to admit it's one way to get in and change things, even if it pisses off millions doing it while filling their pockets with as much cash as they can.

It's a case of the old fuddy duddies in the worse possible way. Gawd, what the hell is happening to the world I used to live in?


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Chrno2



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:26 pm Reply with quote
revolutionotaku wrote:
Juno016 wrote:

Since when was America the source of all good in the world? Even our "freedoms" have brought several social issues here that Japan doesn't have to deal with.
chrno2 wrote:


A while back, I happen to have read Ishihara's anti-American book called "The Japan That Can Say No". The stuff he wrote about the Americans will blow your mind!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Japan_That_Can_Say_No#American_prejudice


Looks like an interesting read. I'll print it out today and read it on the way home. Like I said fuddy duddies of the worse kind. Or Angry old men. I need another good laugh these days.
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