Forum - View topicCode Geass Queen and Knight
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railtracer
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Has anyone read the fan manga volumes released by Bandai called Code Geass Queen or Knight Series?
I kind of want to know whether or not it is worth purchasing. (yes they whore their products but hey if the whore makes money keep whoring). Also a bit of possibly troublesome news. I've done some research before deciding whether to buy these series or not and noticed something problematic. I just thought I'd let people know that the cover of this manga is censored and I would not be surprised if the content within is censored as well. Almost all companies (including bandai's own website) has a picture of C.C.s ass hanging out. This is the Japanese cover. The American cover is quite different. Her skirt is longer and her ass is covered. For a comparison of the two you can check amazon (which has the wrong cover...it's the japanese version) and rightstuf (which has the bandai release version). I can't help but worry that if they were out of the way to censor the cover page that they may have censored some of the content within as well. Does anyone know whether or not the inside remains fully intact without censorship? This may also go true for Knight. I cannot trust that if Queen was censored that Knight will remain fully intact. If anyone knows whether or not Bandai censored the manga please let me know. |
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Sheleigha
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I'm not sure myself, but I do know that sometimes ONLY the cover will have something "filthy" on it and get censored. Vol. 4 of DearS I think it was, had a different image for the cover altogether, because it was VERY suggestive... And I can see why they change covers. Fans may not like it, but parents DO, because there is enough issues already with parents comparing manga to porn, and asking it to be removed from libraries etc. A suggestive cover on display at a store (in the teen section too, usually) can only add more fuel to the fire...
In this thought, if it is ONLY the cover that is altered, then that should save the rest of the manga... |
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railtracer
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Yeah I'm hoping someone on here actually has the title in question so that we can get confirmation. The cover is censored. No doubt about that. I'm hoping it is only the cover (and that they have an uncensored version of the cover inside) but can't trust that they did not censor anything else. (if they even have anything to censor). If anyone has this manga please let me know.
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Soundmonkey44
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Code Geass Has kind of turned into one of those franchises that depends more on fanservicy merch sales & etc, then sales of the main show. given geass has never been a gold star franchise, but I decently enjoyed the anime. But these manga, look a tad over the top IMPO. But I digrese, guess I should just be glad people still care enough about geass to buy merch for it, despite its flaws it is a fun series.
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railtracer
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Well my main issue is that I'm against censorship of any sort. If Bandai has censored the manga (if it even needs censoring) then that will tell me that the company bandai resorts to censorship and that I should no longer buy their products.
I'm a stickler for censorship; be it art, words, music, religious, scientific, political, etc.... I really cannot stand it and it pains me to see that people are resorting to censorship just because it may please a different social group who does not like such and such. It isn't just fanservice or vulgar language but everything. I remember when schools (mainly religious ones) tried to ban the book series Harry Potter because it had to deal with "magic". Censorship in regards to books or manga is no better than the burning or banning of the same sort. Everything should be as it was. I hate banning books more than anything. Anyway the book was recently sold out and I've decided to purchase it from amazon. I've bought it but will not receive until mid September at the latest. It's kind of odd that they would have sold out of this series so quickly and yet I shouldn't be surprised since it was probably because of the "supposed ecchi content". Code Geass itself is not a show small children watch. Hell there is nudity, lots of suicide, death, other violence, backstabbing, etc... which all goes to show that the series is not for children. If they are trying to censor it to make it available to a wider range of audience I believe they will fail. Do they really wish to ostracize the fans by censoring? Now granted this first volume will be purchased by me regardless simply so I can see the comparisons from the japanese to the english and review it. If I see any hint of censorship aside from the cover (which should still have the original inside) then I will no longer buy manga from bandai ever again. Now they don't have too much so not a huge problem but I am insulted that they would do such a thing. Censorship is a case where you can't even give them a foot forward or they will begin to take advantage of it. It's one of the reasons so many anime these days are being censored. People did nothing to stop it. Now the censoring has become a marketing mechanism and that is frankly wrong. If a series needs censoring in the first place then the anime is obviously not intended for children (anything under 17). It is obvious these series that are being censored are for the mature audience and the fact they bother to censor simply goes to show that they are using it as a marketing mechanism. Want to see gory violence of a teacher/student falling to his death...buy the dvd. Want to see ass and tits abound...buy the dvd? Wish to hear uncensored vulgar language without annoying bird calls....buy the dvd. In regards to code geass I wouldn't say it has turned into one of "those" shows. For one it is better than most even still to this day. I'm not a fan of popular series but this is one of the only ones I do not feel is overrated. Is it because of deep intrinsic plot? No. It's because it's damn fun. But I digress, These manga including knighmare of nunnally, knights, queen, and that newest saga from the code geass series are all in their own right separate entities. Queen takes a closer look at the female characters in the series and Knights takes a closer look at the males...now this is doujin though and since I have not actually seen either I'm not sure exactly how bad the manga's may actually be. I hope to find out and then reply to any interested. Mind you the rating of 13+ for the code geass manga takes it to mean that either they've censored the hell out of it or that the manga is not all that bad in the first place as far as "ecchi" content goes. Code Geass is a "whore" they know what they are and they succeed because of it. They have not yet fallen to the level of many of the other series out there because in all honesty code geass is a fun series. Hell if anyone ever bothers to listen to the commentary you can tell that the voice actors and everyone working on it also had fun on it (not sure about english...japanese is better; english is not too too bad though). It doesn't ever try to be anything more than a fun little series and because of this I think it succeeds even greater than many of the so called "gold star" series. Actually let me rant about the cover one last time. They should never have censored it. It isn't even available in the stores, it is obviously targeting mature fans and not children, so my question is why did they bother to change it? I know the safety issue is a bunch of bullshit. The majority of kids these days usually see worse watching something on tv. Not to mention why did they not just have a cover slip for it if they were that worried? There is no reason for them to censor the cover. One more strike will be all it takes for me to lose complete interest in banadai. I hope someone else has bought this manga and can let us know what to expect (or to warn us to stay away) otherwise whenever I receive my copy I will give my reactions to it. If it is worth buying for the average code geass fan and whether or not there is censorship. until then though let's hope the claws of censorship have not pierced the heart of bandai because then nothing they release could be safe. *melodramatic much?* |
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Sheleigha
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Yes it's available in stores, and look back at my comment about parents. Once again, if it's being displayed in stores, in the "young adult" section, and a parent comes and rains on the parade... It would be bad. So it really it a have it slightly censored, or don't have it at ALL because some silly parent thought it was extremely offensive, getting it pulled off shelves etc. To be honest, I don't really find too many manga censored at ALL. I know people mention Ikki Tosen alot, which is the biggest example, and I know they've edited out a crusifix in FMA manga, but either than those too, I don't know what else IS censored. I'm not a fan of censoring either for silly reasons like that (yet see it kept in tact in other series) but if it's at such a minimum like that, I don't see a real issue for future manga edits. Do you know any other examples? I'm sure there is a couple more out there. |
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nightjuan
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I wouldn't worry about this so much. I don't own them myself but, outside of the cover, there's little or nothing remotely worth censoring as part of the actual content. They're basically collections of more or less humorous or lighthearted stories by different creators and nothing the average anime fan would consider truly offensive.
Personally though, I wouldn't say it's worth buying unless you're in the mood for what can be classified as licensed fanfiction and fanart. Once again, the covers themselves are easily the most risque content you'll find. If you still have doubts, here's one of the reviews. |
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Sheleigha
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On another note, if all they're doing is editing the one thing on the cover, be glad. If you read this topic already animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-07-27/u.s-kinokuniya-bookstores-stop-selling-5-bishojo-mags it sounds like a MUCH better alternative that getting them taken off shelves. This is what I was talking about, when people see what's for sale and start making complaints (although in that case, it looks like they were actually digging through the pages).
Although it is more of a case on loli's part, not to say that someone might think Code Geass is any different :/ This is just a positive way of thinking about these VERY minor edits (and once again, I am not one for censorship either). |
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