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IchigoK90



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:06 pm Reply with quote
I was just wondering which ending of the series people enjoyed more or thought was more appropriate. Was it the last 2 episodes for you? Or was it the 2 movies that you thought were more appropriate?

For me I prefer the movies Neon Genesis Evangelion: Death & Rebirth and Neon Genesis Evangelion: End Of Evangelion to the last two episodes of the series. I found the movies to be more comprehensible than the last two episodes. I preferred it to the black and white colouring of the ending episodes. I also found it more entertaining to watch with spoiler[SEELE invading NERV so that they could take control of EVA Unit 01 and use it to create the 3rd Impact.] All in all it felt alot more appropriate to me than the last two episodes.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:22 pm Reply with quote
Most definantly the End of Evangelion, because its more of an audio/visual treat than the last two episodes and basically contains much the same story. However, I think you can benefit from watching both.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:26 pm Reply with quote
Oh and BTW THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON WHICH ENDING IS BETTER! I repeat THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON WHICH ENDING IS BETTER!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:19 pm Reply with quote
IchigoK90 wrote:
Oh and BTW THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON WHICH ENDING IS BETTER! I repeat THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON WHICH ENDING IS BETTER!


And just how are people going to properly establish their viewpoint on which ending they prefer without explaining the reasons they believe it to be better? Unless you're wanting a list thread, people are going to need to explain why they prefer an ending, and at the same time they will be providing their perspective on which one is better in the process.
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IchigoK90



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:24 pm Reply with quote
Nagisa wrote:
IchigoK90 wrote:
Oh and BTW THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON WHICH ENDING IS BETTER! I repeat THIS IS NOT A DEBATE ON WHICH ENDING IS BETTER!


And just how are people going to properly establish their viewpoint on which ending they prefer without explaining the reasons they believe it to be better? Unless you're wanting a list thread, people are going to need to explain why they prefer an ending, and at the same time they will be providing their perspective on which one is better in the process.


Well what I tried to get across is that for people to not group up and trash one ending and say how horrible it was. I only want to hear what they thought was good about which ending they preferred.
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fosterjd



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:32 pm Reply with quote
I prefer to absorb and accept both of them when thinking about the "big picture" of it all. The TV ending is a perfect analysis of the themes and presents the struggles in the show in an artful and expansive way, wheras the End of Eva is an amazing journey for the adrenaline, as well as showing strong visual representation about the more 'literal' stream fo evetns happening to the characters (also lets you focus on the facts for come cases, instead of going off on an over-analytical rant about issued unanswered in the TV show) . Neither of them should be denied or ignored, they both offer refreshing perspectives to give you the complete experience. Also, even though the TV ending doesn't explain EXACTLY what is happening step-by-step, you should remeber that much of what we see makes sense in a metaphorical, symbolic, thematic sort of way. So all in all, I love them both!
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Berselius



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:37 pm Reply with quote
I thought that end of evangelion went more along with the series feeling and flow than the last two episodes did. It just feels weird to be in the physical world for 24 eps, and then with no warning at all, plunge into the conciousness of the main character as he attempts to find happiness within himself. I love things that make me think a long while about them and EoE had me thinking about 4 months. Its kinda funny, you have a choice of either having all the characters, save shinji, becoming irrellevent, or killing them all.
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otakun-kun



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:48 am Reply with quote
i dont see the two last episodes as much of an ending , i think the only ending is the end of evangelion so not much of a choice making
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samuraiwalt



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:12 am Reply with quote
I had heard that they were over budget on the TV series and that's why the last 2 episodes were mostly watercolor stills and narration instead of animation. I prefer End of Evangelion over the last 2 episodes just because there is more animation.
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TranceLimit174



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:45 am Reply with quote
Story wise I actually prefer the TV ending. Simply because it can be viewed as a happier one. In TV series ending I thought that the ending was spoiler[Shinji as well as all of the other characters came to terms with themselves. Shinji in particular also learns to to overcome his own faults and also accept others for how they see him and how he views them as well. Also because of that he is able to create a world he wants to live in. When he's shown that possible reality of his mother being alive, Rei having personality, and Misato being the teacher I believe it was Rei who says "This is just one of many realities that you can have." or something like that. However in End Of Eva he simply has the choice of either keeping humanity united in Lilith's womb or returning to the world he feared.]

However, episodes 25 and 26 do sort of just happen. And that's a major fault. Things flow into End Of Eva much better. The movie is more of the big climax everyone wanted and it is more satisfying. So for Eva as a show End Of Eva's the better ending but as a personal preference I like how the characters ended up in the series ending.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:55 am Reply with quote
TranceLimit174 wrote:
Story wise I actually prefer the TV ending. Simply because it can be viewed as a happier one.


The last eps and movies are both equally happy and/or not happy. The exact same events occur in both. In the last eps, we just happen to see it from an introspective viewpoint, while the movies focus more on the external (for the most part). In any case, they end the exact same way.
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TranceLimit174



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:12 pm Reply with quote
Well I thought in the movie Shinji was only able to choose a reality for humanity as opposed to create one (which is what I thought was the show's ending). Plus I always saw the whole Adam and Eve interpretation of the movie but then again it's only implied and they could be on an isolated beach. Also spoiler[I don't think Auska was really Auska. I noticed it before but it's also mentioned in the commentary, that she seems to be a cross between Auska, Rei, and Misato. The way the bandages are placed and her eyes are the most noticeable.] But that's a different issue altogether.
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axion



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:36 am Reply with quote
Definitely the Death+Rebirth and End of Evangelion ending, by far. There seems to be a popular, and very wrong, notion that the ending presented in the original eps. 25 & 26 conclude with Shinji accepting reality/accepting others/preventing Complementation and the notion that it is the "happier" ending is simply childish. The eps. 25 & 26 ending finishes with Shinji accepting Complementation, this should be clear becuase everyone is happy, Shinji included, and everyone is being nice to each other, this is obviously a complete contradiction to the non-Complemented world where everyone is, to varying degrees, unhappy and unkind to each other. It is not real, it is a cop-out from the inescapable pain of reality. The ending we get with End of Evangelion flows with the series' established plot/story/tone/theme/message, it is more coherent, it provides resolution (some, anyways :p) without relying on lofty, idealist, utopian dreams, and various staff members have admitted that it was the intended ending, but was scrapped only because of budget cuts, internal conflicts, producer/funder/distributer demands, contract requirements, time constraints, etc. IT is real, it is a mature acceptance of reality for reality's sake. Rejecting reality is running away, accepting it is facing facts, standing tall and confronting your fears.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:42 am Reply with quote
axion wrote:
Definitely the Death+Rebirth and End of Evangelion ending, by far. There seems to be a popular, and very wrong, notion that the ending presented in the original eps. 25 & 26 conclude with Shinji accepting reality/accepting others/preventing Complementation and the notion that it is the "happier" ending is simply childish.


Actually, the original and TV endings are both exactly the same, and they both end the exact same way. The TV endings just show more of the internal struggle, while the movies focus more on the external (at least up until the actual occurence of third impact.) Here is a well thought out analysis of the two endings.
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v1cious



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:07 pm Reply with quote
the movie ending was a lot deeper, the tv serie endings just felt unfinished.
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