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Errinundra
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Posts: 6697 Location: Melbourne, Oz |
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The Australian Federal Court this morning handed down its decision in a case where copyright holders took an ISP to court to force it to stop its clients from using torrents. The Court found in favour of the ISP.
Link Much of torrent downloading / uploading infringes copyright but it seems that the copyright holders must find a new strategy to deal with the problem. |
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egoist
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Don't they make enough money already? The studios, I mean. But, lol, I just wonder if the time will come, when Australia closes its borders, kill any foreign within the country, and totally ceases any sort of contact with the outside. Yes, just like in that anime... Australia in 20 years, everyone is a cyborg. Huh, if you enjoyed Time of Eve this is your chance to move before they're totally isolated.
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Nomeru
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I'm not sure if this topic belongs here, but no matter. I find it to be a very good thing for a completely ridiculous lawsuit. Trying to sue an ISP for allowing customers to illegally download things is like a bank suing an auto maker for selling a car to a person who used it to rob said bank. When I say the ISP allowed it, I mean they didn't actively prevent it, I dont really see it as allowing it like the companies suing claimed.
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eyeresist
Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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Gee, did you notice the studios lost the case? And please don't make ridiculous comments about a country you obviously know nothing about. |
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egoist
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That wouldn't stop me from mentioning their greed.
I was making fun of the Australian government, not of the Australian people. If that's still offensive to you, hmm, swallow it? |
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eyeresist
Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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Way to keep the tone civil. |
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egoist
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I'm not civilized. Mom was a mountain monkey. Dad was a South African giraffe. Somehow I was born half human, half hyena, but my mentality is a hyena's. Besides this hyena ain't here to clear up the misunderstandings you selfishly created out of my post. But if you really want to, I could PM you by tomorrow after multiplying my post by 10, plus the explanation, resulting in a post 5 times bigger than the original, and then perhaps you'd understand that my first post was a joke, mocking the people trying to greedily create some sort of censorship within Australia.
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eyeresist
Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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The joke doesn't work, because plenty of people have tried suing ISPs in other countries, including the good old USA. When someone actually wins against an ISP, then you can tell your joke. |
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Penguin_Factory
Posts: 732 Location: Ireland |
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I don't agree with what the film industry was doing- like someone else said, it's the users doing the downloading who were to blame, not the ISPs. However, I think it's pretty ridiculous to characterise this as either "greedy" or "censorship". Attempting to stop people from stealing your copyrighted creative output isn't greed. And who exactly is being censored here? The ISPs? The users downloading stuff? Because neither party is being blocked from expressing themselves. Bottom line, the motivation behind this was perfectly legitimate, they just went about it in an idiotic way. |
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abunai
Old Regular
Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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Pipe down, egoist. Either you tried to make a joke, and it fell flat (because, if it was intended as a joke, it wasn't the slightest bit funny) or you said something stupid and you're trying to brazen it out by pretending it was a joke.
Either way, continuing just makes you look worse, so put a lid on it. - abunai |
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the Rancorous
Posts: 2249 Location: Sac, Ca USA |
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This defense has always, and will always, make me facepalm at the sheer hypocrisy of the 'little man' argument. Seriously, this is what this argument boils down to: "Hey! They make more money than me! Therefore, they should be fine with giving free handouts to me!!" Laughable at the absolute best. Those people knew what they were doing, they took the necessary steps, and they are now living their ideal life creating things for the rest of the masses who did not take up those same dreams and goals to enjoy. And yet, for some unexplained reason, they are obligated to cater to those who were too lazy to do the same? Eph-that. I would never be willing to give my money over to such cheap and ungrateful bastards! The TV networks have every right to keep their work from being accessible for free, if you have a problem with that, than create your own damn network. |
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egoist
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It's not meant to work. Like I said, I was mocking someone else, and that never works as a funny thing. Not all jokes are meant to be funny, and I suppose that clears up what abunai said too.
Well, abunai. Other than that time I asked him to swallow it, I haven't really said anything rude. Or are you asking me to simply let others create 10 lines of misunderstandings out of 4 words I said? If that's the case, I won't. And even more surprised this thread's still here, because I thought it'd be deleted or something, and that's why I took the liberty of answering the gentleman over there.
No matter how you try to mask it, greed is greed. I don't have a problem with that, so don't go around assuming things. I'm also sure that I spend more money than you do in the movie industry. |
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GloriousMaximus
Posts: 138 Location: North America |
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I liked how the judge put it, this decision makes it clear that the studios can't just force ISPs to act as the police and cancel people's internet connections or restrict websites. That would allow studios to take the cheaper and easier way of stopping people from downloading just by getting the ISP to do something to you, instead of doing the proper and accountable thing and taking downloaders to court (not that I support that in any way).
I think for this case the studios wanted to use the courts to create a backdoor way of getting at downloaders through ISPs, good to see the courts get it right for a change. |
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John Casey
Posts: 1853 Location: In My Angry Center |
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Awesome. Now to shut up, and shut out Michael Atkinson next, and Australia will be on its way to becoming a legitimately entertained country.
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eyeresist
Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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The desire to stop people stealing stuff you own is not greed. |
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