Forum - View topicDoes anyone like the old style of animation more?
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Slappydappy
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I started watching anime in the late 80s and I stopped about the early 2000's. I came back a few years ago to get caught up and I gotta say, the animation has gone downhill horribly. Everything looks the same and the colors are so bright and flashy that it hurts my eyes. The only anime of the new style that I think looks fantastic are FLCL, Gunbuster, Airmaster, Scryed, Hellsing, One Piece, etc.
Go back and look at Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Berserk, Ninja Scroll, Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Patlabor, Fist of the North Star, Macross Plus, Serial Experiments Lain, Kare Kano, Trigun, Grappler Baki, Rurouni Kenshin, and so on. I don't know if the animation techniques back then were different, but gosh those anime look so much better than this new stuff. The colors aren't as bright and ridiculous looking, the backgrounds look amazing, the characters are shaded better, and the designs more original. The character designs, the colors, everything of the new anime just looks awful. All the characters look the same. Everything is so sleek, trendy, and colorful. The characters have no originality. Does anyone else feel this way? I feel almost embarrassed to be into anime currently, but back in the day it was bad ass to show someone a copy of Vampire Hunter D. Now it looks like that whole era of anime is gone. |
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Slappydappy
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Seriously look how epic this shit was:
I am really depressed even thinking about it. Someone told me to watch Hajime No Ippo. They said since I loved Airmaster and Grappler Baki that I would love that series. Last edited by Slappydappy on Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:03 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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arugail
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Just look at the first chapter of Blood+, or the opening sequence of FMA: Brotherhood.
Animation hasn't gone downhill, really. I would say, quite the contrary, as anime projects are more ambitious now that the technology (BR, streaming) fuels them, |
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Kruszer
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No I prefer more modern computer assisted anime. Chiefly for the larger color pallet that makes the coloring look a lot better, and textures more defined. Not to mention it can be produced with greater speed and less cost, which makes it more efficient. At any rate, the animation is just the frosting on the cake and it's the story and characters that are actually important.
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Xagor
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By old style of animation you actually mean art style don't you? Colours, backgrounds, designs etc are not animation, they are art style.
If it is the latter you mean just look at something like Mushi-shi. |
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EireformContinent
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Let's say that where everyone is talking about Versailles I remember the standard of peasant's cottage.
Please, let's google average old title. Maybe something long. Not based on hit manga. Yattaman? Tiger Mask? Then we will talk.
Matsumoto? 
So nothing changed since last time. Maybe animes are more colourful- DVD don't suffer from fading. The per cent of anime with good style doesn't change. The only thing that can be changed are the ways of hiding lack of budget. |
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Slappydappy
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[EDIT: This was just a bunch of pics with no commentary whatsoever and a single "LOL." That doesn't cut it 'round here - Key]
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MorwenLaicoriel
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In terms of animation I think the current era is probably overall better than previous generations. Some of the higher-budget titles by, say, KyoAni have much smoother animation than something like Evangelion could really hope to match (and NGE's one of my favorite series, so this isn't to say I think it looks bad!)
I prefer the brighter, more varied coloring of today's shows, too, but that's partially going to be personal taste. I loooove bright colors, so a lot of the time I enjoy coloring styles that people find garish. (For example, the colors in Shiki didn't bother me much at all, but a lot of people have complained about it.) And backgrounds? I think those are generally more detailed these days, plus they just blend together with the animation well. Not always, of course, but when I was younger it always bothered me that the background and the foreground were so clearly different "pieces". Now that physical cells aren't used as much in animation you're not going to have things like...a rock that's about to move being a different color than the mountain it's resting on. Now in terms of plain 'ol art style? I think both eras are a mixed bag. Sure, I love the style of shows like Cowboy Bebop and Lain, but I also love the style of shows like Fullmetal Alchemist and Soul Eater. I definitely don't agree that everything these days "looks the same." Take, for example, Death Note and When They Cry. Both came out in 2006, both are in similar genres, but the art styles are totally different, from the characters to the coloring. Now, I don't think Higurashi looks very appealing, so I'm not saying that these are the best examples of, say...good art styles in modern shows (although I do really like how Death Note looks), but I honestly think that Trigun and Cowboy Bebop look waaay more alike than those series do. This isn't to say I dislike the classic anime style--I like some series quite a bit. But for me I can find good styles in pretty much every year, I don't think that the modern era has a drought of good-looking titles, or that everything made back in the 90's looks spectacular. EDIT: I think Darker Than Black fits in just fine with the other screencaps. (And the majority of "old school" screenshots you used are films, of course they're going to have higher quality animation than a TV series. I would hope so, anyway.) |
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Slappydappy
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Not really. The background buildings look like CGI-stock animation trash with nothing to them. The characters are dull and lifeless looking. Like generic characters you'd get for a dumb Korean MMORPG. Although Darker than Black isn't even remotely on my hit-list, I just brought it up for comparison. I'd probably be better filling this with images of Bleach and Naruto. |
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EireformContinent
Posts: 977 Location: Łódź/Poland (The Promised Land) |
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I know that "one picture..." but since it's not 4chan I'd prefer you to write.
Of course you can always compare the best of the past to mediocre series of nowadays. I just say that the thing that constantly made me sick during watching Galaxy Express series was a main protagonist who looked like a bastard of Quasimodo and potato Also google screenshots of old and new "Glass Mask" and honestly compare them. |
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MorwenLaicoriel
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First of all, that picture of Darker Than Black you showed looks like a promo image, so i don't think that's representative at all of what the backgrounds in the series looks like. The characters are supposed to be sort of unemotional in that show, so...that's sort of like saying Rei Ayanami looks dull and lifeless looking. That's the point. Comparing Bleach and Naruto to (for example) GITS is inane, they're for entirely different audiences and, again, Ghost in the Shell is a film. Of course it's going to look better than a cheaply produced shounen show. I would HOPE so. Comparing Bleach to DBZ is probably a better example, and...I really think those two shows are about on par in terms of looks (except for the fact that I really dislike Dragon Ball's character designs, but that's all subjective taste--someone could say they love those character designs and I wouldn't say they're wrong to think so). |
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Slappydappy
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Dragon Ball Z has much worse animation, but the big difference is simply that the world of Dragon Ball Z, the characters, and the story are more original than Naruto or Bleach. Keep in mind, I don't even like the Dragon Ball series. It's silly and repetitive. But there was much more creativity dumped into it's universe than the other shows. |
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EireformContinent
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IN DBZ I we didn't even know so fundamental truths like how exactly the Sayians were and what was going on with Frieza organisation. I wouldn't call it good universe, really.
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MorwenLaicoriel
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Story doesn't matter when discussing animation and art style, dude. |
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braves
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I mean, is a promo image now considered to be "animation"? This is also the first time I've ever heard somebody say the animation in Fist of the North Star, Berserk, and Grappler Baki were good. |
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