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OsamuTezuka



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:35 pm Reply with quote
I help run an anime club (for adults) at my local library, and I'm trying to put together a list of short anime films we can show (legally!) for a mini "film festival". I have a 2-hour block to fill. We have a Crunchyroll account, we can show stuff that anime companies put on Youtube for free, (on legit channels, I know some companies put out shorts this way.), and we do have a rotating license list here: http://library.movlic.com/anime-titles
I can also check other titles via the site's search engine, because they have some anime titles that they don't put in the anime section for some reason. Razz

Firstly, I've been trying to find the On Your Mark music video made by Studio Ghibli on a legit Youtube channel, (I could have sworn there was an official upload of it.)
I'd also like to show the short film Hotori: anime#6073 I can't find any US release, I just remember watching it subbed. Did the studio release it on Youtube or anything?
I did want to show Pale Cocoon, but it's no longer on Crunchyroll Sad

I'm hoping to be able to showcase works from a few different anime artists. If anyone could point me to some shorts we could legally show, I would very much appreciate it.
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:00 am Reply with quote
It should be pointed out, that just because you have legal access to these titles, that doesn't mean you can screen them.

EVERYTHING you want to screen has to be approved by the licensor.
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:29 am Reply with quote
But would he charge for it? He doesn't say in the post, but if he doesn't, why would he have to get licensor approval? What would be the difference between that and having an anime-watching night with a group of friends? I know copyright laws are dumb and draconian, but if you have to literally ask permission to share two hours of content with a small group of people for no profit at all, then they're even more idiotic than I thought
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nobahn
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:48 am Reply with quote
There is a reason that that most people who opine on the law first preface their comments with "IANAL."
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:57 am Reply with quote
CrowLia wrote:
But would he charge for it? He doesn't say in the post, but if he doesn't, why would he have to get licensor approval? What would be the difference between that and having an anime-watching night with a group of friends? I know copyright laws are dumb and draconian, but if you have to literally ask permission to share two hours of content with a small group of people for no profit at all, then they're even more idiotic than I thought


I used to run an anime club at my local middle school. Obviously, there was no charge, and it wasn't even open to the public, just to students of the school. We could have gotten a) the club shut down, and b) the school in trouble, if we didn't get permissions. FUNimation at least used to have a program for clubs to get screener discs and permissions, we worked through that a lot.

There's a large difference in having friends over for a movie night, and doing a public screening of something, whether or not it's for profit or not.


My roommate works at a public library. There is a specific licensor they are required to go through if they want to play something, and they can only show things that are available through that licensor.
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:45 am Reply with quote
^So basically copyright laws are that stupid. I'm glad no one enforces them this side of the border
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OsamuTezuka



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:36 am Reply with quote
Um, yes we are allowed to show these things, that is what I mentioned in my first post. The link I provided was to a site for our PUBLIC SCREENING license. Which is also what our Crunchyroll account is for, it's a special anime club account. Everything I mentioned in the OP is what we're allowed to screen. We can also use stuff on Youtube, as long as it's put there by studios/licensers on their own official channels, (not stuff posted illegally by random people.) All our screenings are free, and the library system pays for the licenses provided by the site I linked to.

I'm not a lawyer, but I've studied law--specifically civil law, and I also did my own research into copyright law.
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nobahn
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:40 am Reply with quote
OK, FWIW, here are my thoughts: Crunchyroll has both Voices of a Distant Star (a 30 minute film) and 5 Centimeters per Second -- which is 60 minutes long. Both are by Makoto Shinkai. You can take the rest of the 30 available minutes by contrasting the character relations of "Voices" with "5 CM/s." You could also compare & contrast the OSTs of the two movies -- they both have the same composer.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:40 am Reply with quote
A clear and informative article for anyone who is interested in how this works.
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:57 am Reply with quote
I see one movie on that list you linked to that is worth showing: Summer Wars.

I'm unclear on how your Crunchyroll account works. Can you show anything they carry or just a subset of the works they stream?

Are you looking to show series or just movies? How would handle a series? Three sessions of four episodes each for a 11-13 episode series? I'd think anything with series counts much larger than that would be too long.

In that format, I'd suggest Princess Jellyfish from that list since it has an adult cast and is fun to watch. The cross-dressing character may be a problem depending on how open-minded your audience might be.

I'm not a fan of Evangelion myself, but I see the two movies are there. Given its historical importance, you might want to show those.
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OsamuTezuka



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:06 pm Reply with quote
yuna49 wrote:
I see one movie on that list you linked to that is worth showing: Summer Wars.

I'm unclear on how your Crunchyroll account works. Can you show anything they carry or just a subset of the works they stream?

Are you looking to show series or just movies? How would handle a series? Three sessions of four episodes each for a 11-13 episode series? I'd think anything with series counts much larger than that would be too long.

In that format, I'd suggest Princess Jellyfish from that list since it has an adult cast and is fun to watch. The cross-dressing character may be a problem depending on how open-minded your audience might be.

I'm not a fan of Evangelion myself, but I see the two movies are there. Given its historical importance, you might want to show those.


We only meet once a month at the moment, so I'm not sure how showing a lengthy series, (even one that's only 13 episodes), would work out over that kind of gap. However, the 2-hour time frame is not strict. We have to end at a fixed time because of when the library closes for the night, but we are able to start a little earlier if necessary.

As for Crunchyroll, yes we can pretty much screen anything they have. The "anime club" account they provided us is the same as having a premium account in terms of what we have access to. This is an adult (18+) anime club, so adult content is not a big issue, but I'm probably not going to try anything remotely hentai-ish. Razz
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:19 pm Reply with quote
Crunchyroll has some ecchi series but nothing that comes close to hentai. The bigger problem is that most of its inventory is series.

I'll suggest one item on YouTube that you can watch in an hour. It's the final arc from the anthology Ayakashi Samurai Horror Tales called "Bake Neko:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0FvRAV4iqU

Toei seems uninterested in enforcing its copyright, and the DVD release is now out-of-print and expensive. This series introduced the mysterious Medicine Seller character played by Sakurai Takahiro in one of the best male seiyuu performances I've ever heard. If you like this show, you can watch the sequel Mononoke since it streams on Crunchyroll. Mononoke also consists of 2-4 episode arcs so it would fit your schedule. Since the legality of your watching "Bake Neko" collectively is somewhat questionable, you might just watch Mononoke but give your members the URL for the prequel.

The fansub of Bartender is also up on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBC27A43F92EC79F9 Again I don't know how that works from a copyright perspective. My usual take on YouTube items is that, if they have been available for a reasonable length of time, and the rights holders have not issued a take-down request, they've chosen to ignore the infringement. Bartender was uploaded in July of 2014, and neither Studio Palm nor anyone else on the production committee has made an effort to have this now ten-year-old series removed. This is an episodic show set in a Ginza bar. A variety of patrons seek emotional solace from a bartender with a preternatural ability to select just the right alcoholic concoction.

Uchuu Kyoudai ("Space Brothers") has 99 episodes, but you might decide to watch one each meeting. It's about two adult brothers who follow their childhood dream and become astronauts. It's full of stereotypes and funny depictions of US locales like Houston through Japanese eyes. Space Brothers has some cliff-hanger moments, but mostly it follows a slice-of-life approach focused on training and camaraderie. It's on Crunchyroll: http://www.crunchyroll.com/space-brothers

Funimation might have a better selection of shows for you than Crunchyroll. Have you considered trying to get a similar license from Funi? That way you could watch Death Parade which is also mature and episodic.
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OsamuTezuka



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:55 pm Reply with quote
I don't have the final say in terms of how we approach copyright. Even though something has been sitting on Youtube for years, the library may not want to take the risk. I've been told we have a little leeway: because of the computer lab and a number of laptops the library has we could act as though everyone is just watching Youtube on those computers. I'd rather not walk that line more than necessary though.

Studio Ghibli's On Your Mark music video has been posted all over the place. I've been trying to find an official upload of it by Ghibli or the band that did the music. I can't read Japanese so I can't tell if any of the Japanese uploads I've found are the official Ghibli youtube channel or anything. I may end up using the aforementioned Youtube loophole, though I kind of think Ghibli doesn't even care about On Your Mark. I'm aware of the controversy with it, but I don't think that matters much.
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