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LegitPancake
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But the thing is, the novels didn’t have any controversial references. Only the web novel, which Hobby Japan has nothing to do with, made some rather untasteful remarks regarding the MC’s past. So I don’t blame HJ, though I think their “EVERYONE GET OFF THE BOAT IT’S SINKING” response was ridiculous.
Also can we move on? This kind of news is getting old... |
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Stuart Smith
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It's worth discussing for creators since it sets a precedent, especially since this artist works on a historic military series. It's always a good idea to address these concerns as soon as possible, before they take root and ruin your industry like we've seen with American comics. -Stuart Smith |
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DeTroyes
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Chiharu Takano:
Which is the problem, because these days it too often just means "any speech that I don't like." The term has been so overused that it is effectively becoming meaningless. |
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Wtv
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Looking at this person's manga, no wonder they's worried.
"The remnants of a defeated Empire prepare to strike back at an invading army." https://www.mangaupdates.com/image/i264389.jpg |
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Chrono1000
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The definition of offensive speech expands with every passing year. Now that the Chinese government knows that they can easily get anime cancelled with an outrage movement they will take full advantage of that fact. Anime that is against authoritarianism and communism will also be considered offensive in the future.
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Ashley Hakker
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I am loving this Chinese conspiracy against anime take, while it ignores that even Japans own Neo-Nationalist, History Revising, Right Wing was ALSO upset by the author's comments and writings.
I mean, when the guys who are like 'Japan did NOTHING wrong during WWII and then we got viciously nuked.' are upset with you, 'Political Correctness' is probably not the only problem in your writing. |
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Actar
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Seriously, I don't understand how being offended suddenly grants one the power to dictate what others can and cannot do.
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Kougeru
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Lol stop with your exaggerations. The Chinese government had nothing to do with this. Nor did communism. We get it already anyway, you hate communism. Okay, you have that right but spreading exaggerated fears does no one any good. The definition of "offensive speech" does not expand ever year. There's one definition. "Offensive" speech is speech that someone finds offensive. This changes depending on who you're talking to. Everyone finds different things offensive. HATE speech is entirely different than "offensive speech". We're not talking about "offensive" speech. We're talking about HATE speech. The author used HATE speech when he said Chinese people were insects. That's not merely "offensive". It's hateful. It's racist. If you really think hate speech/racist comments are on the same level as mere "offensive" speech then you're probably a racist.
The difference is that communism (by it's actual definition) isn't about degrading other races or attacking the actual lives of people. Hate speech does.
This is factually incorrect. Like Chrono, you're confusing "Offensive speech" with "HATE speech". There's a huge difference. Hate speech is factually hateful and is against the rights of a certain person/people. Offensive speech depends entirely on the perspective of the people involved. For example, some people are offended by swear words. I'm not. That's offensive speech, but not hate speech. On the other hand, using the N-word or calling a gay person the f-word is HATE speech. Huge difference. Don't mix them up.You can't seriously think calling someone a "doucebag" is the same as calling an entire race "insects". If he was targeting one specific person, it wouldn't be racist either. But he specified Chinese people as a whole. |
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#854626
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Welcome to America's world, japan.[/b]
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DeTroyes
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It doesn't. But too many people now think that it does. |
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Kougeru
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Second, it's not "dictating" what people can or cannot do. You're allowed to be racist. There's just consequences for it. Those consequences are that no one that isn't a racist will want to associate with you. That's why the anime got cancelled and that's why the publishing was paused/stopped. Racists have gotten away with their BS for far too long. |
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Ashley Hakker
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Allow me to explain. If you cause an outrage in two neighboring countries AND within the LEFT and RIGHT wing of your OWN country, literally everyone stops wanting to do business with you because you become a threat to their business operations. You become 'radioactive' effectively. Especially in a country where if you're an entertainer of any sort and you get arrested for doing pot, all the companies that had any involvement with your properties literally start erasing your media presence from history. It's all REALLY pretty easy to understandable. However it is pretty impressive that he managed to upset bot the left and right wing in his own country at the same time. That's usually an either or thing but I guess not exclusively so. |
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animefanworried
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The comments were horrible but the response is completely disproportionate. Stuff like this can leave a bad precedent and allowing those who scream outrage to be vindicated, even just once, can lead to disaster. Just ask video games and comic books.
When I first read this article, I thought their take on this situation was a bit too conspiratorial but now that all this crap is happening I'm starting to think maybe they have a point. It does seem that whenever certain people find something they can latch on to, they try to milk it for everything its worth and there's certainly more than one group within and outside Japan that's been looking for a way to cause outrage and be able to attack certain aspects of the medium they don't like. I just hope this crap ends soon. |
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Jonny Mendes
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This guy have a real talent, If he only upset the left wing, this would probably get ignored like other anti China LN/manga/anime out there. But upsetting both sides and making racist comments just make him persona non grata in the industry. Last edited by Jonny Mendes on Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:02 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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