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James02
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I didn't see this coming. Not a bad thing, I just didn't expect this.
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-Matthew-
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:42 am |
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Great news!!
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SinisterOracle
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:46 am |
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I’m shocked. Perhaps it’s a hit in Japan?
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malvarez1
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:59 am |
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| SinisterOracle wrote: | | I’m shocked. Perhaps it’s a hit in Japan? |
It consistently makes the top 10 most viewed anime on TV.
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InNeedOfAName
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:19 am |
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| malvarez1 wrote: | | It consistently makes the top 10 most viewed anime on TV. |
Yes it did, but that's mainly because of the timeslot it's in, the "Detective Conan waiting room" timeslot.
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malvarez1
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:26 am |
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| InNeedOfAName wrote: | | malvarez1 wrote: | | It consistently makes the top 10 most viewed anime on TV. |
Yes it did, but that's mainly because of the timeslot it's in, the "Detective Conan waiting room" timeslot. |
Regardless, ratings are ratings. There was no way they’d pass on a second season.
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InfiniteNothingness
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:11 am |
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If only it was halfway decent, if not better.
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Shay Guy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:31 pm |
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| malvarez1 wrote: | | Regardless, ratings are ratings. There was no way they’d pass on a second season. |
That only follows if it gets them better ratings than what they’d get otherwise. And as far as I can tell (I haven’t gone through the data I’ve downloaded to compare to past shows like MHA or Mix), it’s just coasting off the timeslot. Yomiuri TV could put practically anything in there and it’d get at least decent ratings — but why this, and so soon?
…Actually it’s odd that they’re saying “next winter”. For the past decade, that timeslot’s changed its occupant every six months — that is, in spring and fall. But this show’s coming back in winter? Is it changing its timeslot? Is Yaiba gonna be three cours instead of two? Is it gonna be two cours, plus a one-cour series after it?
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MFrontier
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2025 10:56 pm |
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Guess things aren't going to get any easier for poor Nio, but I'm happy for a second season!
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InNeedOfAName
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 9:04 am |
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| Shay Guy wrote: | | That only follows if it gets them better ratings than what they’d get otherwise. And as far as I can tell (I haven’t gone through the data I’ve downloaded to compare to past shows like MHA or Mix), it’s just coasting off the timeslot. Yomiuri TV could put practically anything in there and it’d get at least decent ratings — but why this, and so soon?
…Actually it’s odd that they’re saying “next winter”. For the past decade, that timeslot’s changed its occupant every six months — that is, in spring and fall. But this show’s coming back in winter? Is it changing its timeslot? Is Yaiba gonna be three cours instead of two? Is it gonna be two cours, plus a one-cour series after it? |
Last season of MHA is presumably 1 cour.
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Eddy2
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 11:32 am |
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I'm sorry but that guy's face in the thumbnail looks so goofy for some reason. 
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Shay Guy
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:22 pm |
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| Shay Guy wrote: | | And as far as I can tell (I haven’t gone through the data I’ve downloaded to compare to past shows like MHA or Mix), it’s just coasting off the timeslot. |
I decided to actually make that comparison, adding a few extra lines to my notebook for analyzing the ratings. I grouped the history of the Pre-Conan slot going back to Spring 2014 and averaged the ratings. Here's what I got:
| Code: | pre_conan_resampled = translated_df.loc[
pre_conan_slot & (translated_df['Date'] >= "2014-04-01"),
['Title', 'Date', 'Average Household Rating']
].resample('6MS', on='Date', origin="2014-04-01")
pre_conan_by_show = pre_conan_resampled.agg({
'Title': pd.Series.mode,
'Average Household Rating': "mean"
})
pre_conan_by_show['Episodes charted'] = pre_conan_resampled.agg('size')
pre_conan_by_show |
| Code: | | Title | Average Household | Episodes
| | Rating | charted
Date ------+-------------------------------+-------------------+---------
2014-04-01 | The File of Young Kindaichi | 5.700000 | 25
| Returns | |
2014-10-01 | Magic Kaito 1412 | 7.126087 | 23
2015-04-01 | Ultimate Otaku Teacher | 4.390000 | 10
2015-10-01 | The File of Young Kindaichi | 6.072000 | 25
| Returns | |
2016-04-01 | Ace Attorney | 4.386957 | 23
2016-10-01 | Time Bokan 24 | 4.258333 | 24
2017-04-01 | My Hero Academia | 3.583333 | 18
2017-10-01 | Time Bokan: The Villains | 4.400000 | 23
| Strike Back | |
2018-04-01 | My Hero Academia | 3.718182 | 22
2018-10-01 | Ace Attorney Season 2 | 4.772000 | 25
2019-04-01 | Mix | 4.004167 | 24
2019-10-01 | My Hero Academia | 4.265217 | 23
2020-04-01 | Hakushon Daimaō 2020 | 4.924000 | 25
2020-10-01 | Yashahime: Princess Half- | 5.104000 | 25
| Demon | |
2021-04-01 | My Hero Academia | 3.858333 | 24
2021-10-01 | Yashahime: Princess Half- | 4.254167 | 24
| Demon | |
2022-04-01 | Love All Play | 3.095652 | 23
2022-10-01 | My Hero Academia | 3.684000 | 25
2023-04-01 | MIX Season 2 | 3.353846 | 26
2023-10-01 | Firefighter Daigo: Rescuer in | 3.812000 | 25
| Orange | |
2024-04-01 | My Hero Academia | 3.004762 | 21
2024-10-01 | Blue Miburo | 3.375000 | 24 |
Obviously there's a lot of ups and downs, and an overall downward trend as people drift away from live TV viewership, but… I guess Blue Miburo hasn't done bad? Better than Mix S2, or Love All Play. To my surprise, it looks like My Hero Academia has historically been one of the weaker performers in the timeslot. Seasons 2, 3, 5, and 7 all got worse ratings on average than the shows that aired before and after them.
In fact, if you go by ratio of "show's average rating" to "rating required on average to break into the bottom of the chart" (as a crude way of adjusting for declining overall ratings), I… think Blue Miburo might be one of the best-performing shows? And Firefighter Daigo, of all things, is #1 by that metric. Either my grasp on the Japanese live-TV market's tastes is even worse than I thought, or I need a better metric. (Both are quite possible; this metric shows a distinct increase over time.)
Maybe I should divide each show's average ratings by Detective Conan's average ratings at the time. Or would subtraction work better? Hmm… no matter what metric I use, Firefighter Daigo comes out in the better-performing half (as do The File of Young Kindaichi Returns S2, Mix S2, and both seasons of Yashahime). And the worse-performing half always includes Love All Play, Time Bokan: The Villains Strike Back, Ultimate Otaku Teacher, Mix S1, and MHA S3. Wonder if there's a vectorized Pandas method for giving a row's ranking, if you're ranking by column A for all rows with the same value in column B…
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